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    Talking New Cycle Stareted, Please Critique

    I just started my newest cycle yesterday. It is listed below.


    Wk (1-5) 25 mg D-Ball (15 mg morning + 10 mg Evening)
    Wk (1-12) 500 mg Test (move up to 750 mg on Wk 6) (Divided 2 times week)
    Wk (1-10) 400 mg Deca (Divided equally 2 times per week)
    Wk (13-14) 320 mg ED Test-U (Andriol ) (Divided Intake every 8 hours)

    Wk (8-14) 50 mg ED Proviron
    Wk (6-14) 1000 IU HCG (500 IU Sat + 500 IU Sun)

    The planned PCT is:

    Wk 15 - 17 100 mg Clenbuterol ED (Ramp Up - Ramp Down)
    Wk (15-18) 20 mg ED Nolvadex
    Wk (16-18) Clomid Daily (200 mg 1st dose, 100 mg Week 1, 50 mg last 2 weeks)

    Does this look good? Would anyone do it any different? Also, optimally how many weeks should you run Test after the last shoot of Deca to help with the PCT. Some say 1 week longer others say as much as 5 weeks longer. I am using Andriol the last few weeks and then starting PCT the next week. Andriol goes out of your body fast and thus this looks like the right way to do this.

    Please post what you think.

    Thank You
    Last edited by Casanova; 01-13-2004 at 11:57 AM.

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    I would not start the clen until you are in PCT because when you are on clen you need to do cardio and that will cause you to lose your gains.

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    Looks pretty good to me. The only thing I noticed is that you don't need to taper off the clen . You only taper up to a doseage that is correct for you, determined by your tolerance. You could follow up the clen with and ECA to maintain fat loss and help with catabolism. Clomid should be used for 21 days; 300 day 1, 100 for 10 days, then 50 for 10 days. You may want to consider use of an antiaromatizer during the cycle.

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    i get better results spliting my d-bol doses into four and space them six hours apart. also why dont you run 750 mg of test all the way thru the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moush
    I would not start the clen until you are in PCT because when you are on clen you need to do cardio and that will cause you to lose your gains.
    Sorry bro, but that's something I do not agree with.
    On the opposite, what has been seen on horses is that leaning out and maybe some muscle building on clen happen only without cardio training.

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    well looks good to me.. !

    Good luck with it bro !

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    Started at 202 lbs on Monday. I was 207 today. Guess lot of it is water. My goal is 230+ lbs and then cut to a lean 7%-8% BF 210 lbs.

    Taking 300 gr min protien per day
    4000+ Calories per day

    I may take some pics to see progress.

    Thanks for the crtique.

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    Andriol leaves your system quickly, because it's never in it.
    That stuff is the most disappointing Drug I've ever taken with the exception of the Nitromethane experience...but that's another story.
    Andriol on paper is the most impressive drug maybe ever for BBing, but to keep it short Bro...it just simply doesn't work. Bummer too, I've got tons of it.

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