first cycle

**yayo** · 01-20-2004, 08:44 PM

hey ya'll...im 23 and have been wokring out for some years now. im 5'11, 225lbs aprox 20% BF
this would be my first cycle. Im thinking of going like this

Since its my first cycle im am only going to go with 200mg a week for 10 weeks with Deca Dura, also been told many times to add test in there. I am plan to, but anyone in particular work well with deca? and how much dosage a week? and around week 8 to throw in some winstrol which I plan on doing

I guess my question is I have the deca for 10 weeks and know the dosage, how much dosage of test and how often? e.g. start off at the same time with deca all the way through week 10? and also with the winstrol.

thanks!

**yayo** · 01-20-2004, 08:47 PM

also, Ive read on the side-affects on deca (deca-dick, gyno) are these less likely to happen since I am throwing in the test?

**daman1** · 01-20-2004, 08:59 PM

test prop or enanthate . and yes, your deca dick will be lessened with the test. you'll become a horny bastard.

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**Bartleby** · 01-20-2004, 10:00 PM

if its your first cycle just do the deca and test, forget the winny..
weeks 1-11 Test E-500mg/wk
weeks 1-10 Deca-400mg/wk
nolva 10mg ed throughout cycle
PCT-clomid and nolva
the test is extended 1 week past the deca recovery purposes...
also your bf % is pretty high, i would reccomend dropping it a bit b4 you start...good luck..

**Fartdaemon** · 01-20-2004, 10:05 PM

Nicely done Bartle, looks good to me!

**yayo** · 01-21-2004, 04:44 PM

I am also getting EQUIPOISE . I am going to drop the deca ... well not totally but how does this look...

weeks 1-10 EQUIPOISE... dont know how much I should take
weeks 1-11 Test (not sure on which im getting)
weeks 8-11 Deca 300mg

and clomid post cycle. (how long should I take clomid?)

**carlo** · 01-21-2004, 04:59 PM

If it is first time using gear I would only do test to see how your body responds to ASS, I started with Deca and Test but right at the beginning decided to drop the Deca, I want to see how just one roid will do and of course is gotta be Test, I would save the Deca for my second or thrid cycle.
Good Luck!

**Bartleby** · 01-21-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by yayo

I am also getting EQUIPOISE . I am going to drop the deca ... well not totally but how does this look...

weeks 1-10 EQUIPOISE... dont know how much I should take
weeks 1-11 Test (not sure on which im getting)
weeks 8-11 Deca 300mg

and clomid post cycle. (how long should I take clomid?)

drop the deca all together...deca for 4 weeks will do nothing, save it for a future cycle when you can get some more...as far as clomid most ppl recommend the classic 300/100/50, but I see more ppl just going with 100mg for the entire PCT...

**yayo** · 01-21-2004, 05:06 PM

Ahh,cool... so I only need to take clomind for 3 weeks at 100mg a day?

Yeah, just gonna drop the deca and save it for later.

Thanks guys. Probably not gonna start until March... im 5'11 and weigh 225. my goal is to get down to 200. so, by march I will hopefully be able to start.
Any thoughts on some good fat burners, like Stacker 2? or TrimSpa? I took Xenadrine RFA1 and lost 30 pounds with just one bottle, it was great.. but I gues they stopped making it with ephdrine...

also... just talked to my guy and he cant get nolva... is that a prob? remember i dropped the deca... so it will only be eq and test.

**daWhoady** · 01-21-2004, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by carlo

If it is first time using gear I would only do test to see how your body responds to ASS

yup, you can never be too sure how you'll react to ass. It also matter what type of ass you get too. A good peice of ass though can go along way, just make sure you trust your source so you don't get screwed with some sort of rash after the cycle.

**daWhoady** · 01-21-2004, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by yayo

Ahh,cool... so I only need to take clomind for 3 weeks at 100mg a day?

Yeah, just gonna drop the deca and save it for later.

Thanks guys. Probably not gonna start until March... im 5'11 and weigh 225. my goal is to get down to 200. so, by march I will hopefully be able to start.
Any thoughts on some good fat burners, like Stacker 2? or TrimSpa? I took Xenadrine RFA1 and lost 30 pounds with just one bottle, it was great.. but I gues they stopped making it with ephdrine...

also... just talked to my guy and he cant get nolva... is that a prob? remember i dropped the deca... so it will only be eq and test.

Don't focus too much on fat burners, get a kick ass diet going. You really need to bring down that BF% before you start, so I'm glad to hear that's the direction you are going.

You don't need a guy to get Nolva, you can order from a Research company. Definatley get the Nolva, because you don't know you'll react. Don't want to go through all that hard work, only to come out with bitch tits in the end.

**yayo** · 01-21-2004, 05:50 PM

alright..sorry about the questions but just want to get everything ready so I can tell my dude tomorrow.

1) how much clomid should I grab? and how long should I wait before taking it? like 3 weeks after last shot, and how long should I use it for.

2) should I use nova all the way through the cycle from week one, and even run after? and if so, how much a week/day?