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    How would I go about a cycle of Deca

    How would I go about a cycle of DECA if I dont stack it with anything since it is my first cycle? Should I just take a vial a week for 12 weeks?

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    You wouldn't.

    If you want to do something basic for a first cycle, use Test Enanthate or Cypionate for 10 weeks.

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    But I dunno if I can get those I know I can get deca I was thinking of Deca and d-bol , but I am a newbie and I would love advice from experienced users

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    You wouldn't.

    If you want to do something basic for a first cycle, use Test Enanthate or Cypionate for 10 weeks.
    This guy might be a complete and total moron, but he's right about this for sure

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    On top of that, you would not want to do deca alone, due to sexual sides. A test ester should be the base of any cycle, like KM said, check out test enanthate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    But I dunno if I can get those I know I can get deca I was thinking of Deca and d-bol , but I am a newbie and I would love advice from experienced users
    if they got deca , they got test. Key summed it up. Just read up.
    example:
    wk 1-4 35 mg dbol ed
    wk 1-10/12 400/500mg test c/test e
    10 or 20mg nolva ed
    wk 13/15 pct with 20mg nolva and 300/100/50 set up of clomid
    Last edited by 50%Natural; 01-21-2004 at 07:53 PM.

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    so test anenthate and I should be fine I can do it with out stacking

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    yepp

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    so test anenthate and I should be fine I can do it with out stacking
    but be patient. it's not gonna kick in for about 3 weeks. don't give up if you aren't seeing anything during the first few weeks.

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    I wouldnt trust any source that cant get test

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    do the deca and dbol for your first time if your just tring to get your feet wet, but dont expect any huge gains.

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    also does anyone know how much novalex and clomid is?

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    Yea do test or you will regret it!

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    Bro.. If this is your 1 cycle .. I agree with everyone.. DO a TEST first..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    also does anyone know how much novalex and clomid is?
    ask your source. he might carry it.

    or are you getting it from one of your friends ??

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    a friend

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    then invest in some liquid research products for your anti-e's

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    if I go with test anenthate with out stackin should I expect some decent gains? I am a twig as it is I am a total newbie to lifting and everything ufortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    if I go with test anenthate with out stackin should I expect some decent gains? I am a twig as it is I am a total newbie to lifting and everything ufortunately
    define twig

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    im 6 feet tall weighin like 170 im just tall and skinny barely any muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    im 6 feet tall weighin like 170 im just tall and skinny barely any muscle
    then you might want to consider revamping your entire diet before you start sticking yourself with needles and steroids . you can stand to gain at least 10 pounds naturally by eating right.

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    Hey I wanted to also know if drugs was a factor while on a cycle, coke,weed.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    Hey I wanted to also know if drugs was a factor while on a cycle, coke,weed.....
    You shouldn't be doing drugs anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    Hey I wanted to also know if drugs was a factor while on a cycle, coke,weed.....
    is this why you are a twig? Dont do it. You're that guy. The guy that does drugs and wants to do steroids . You won't see ****, you won't gain ****, and you won't keep **** if you don't have your priorities straight

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    i dont profess to be ridiculously knowledgable like the rest of the guys on here (who really know their stuff by the way), but i would def say to stay off any kind of drug while using AS. Why would you wanna corrupt your body like that while trying to improve it at the same time? Sounds counterproductive to me. Aside from the fact that it probably is not a healthy decision anyway. But good luck in whatever you do.

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    hey im just askin dont mean im sniffin an 8 ball all day every day im a pothead man.. one last question ...how much novaldex should I take if im on a cycle of test anenthate?

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    i labeled a sample cycle for you

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    hey does anyone know what is the best cycle I can get for my money for a begginer who has like 400 to spend

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    you should train for a few months before you start juicing man. get yourself a solid base to work with before you start using gear. with a good diet and hard work you can put on some great gains. it really isn't worth $400 to spend juice when you really have nothing to work with as is.

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    yeah I have been workin out for about 3 months now

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOMMY-GUNN
    you should train for a few months before you start juicing man. get yourself a solid base to work with before you start using gear. with a good diet and hard work you can put on some great gains. it really isn't worth $400 to spend juice when you really have nothing to work with as is.
    I agree, try to reach your natural limit first. When I started training I was 18 at 6' and 167lb. I eventually reached 210lb naturally and most of my gains came about in a 2 year time span when my diet was changed. When you build a solid base you are more likely to keep the gains you get off from future cycles (permiting that proper PCT, diet, and training follows). If there is one thing I took away from all my years of undergrad bio studies, is that the human body as an organisim always strives towards homeostasis.

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    hey if I start my cycle with Test Enanthate I do need novaldex or something like that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    hey if I start my cycle with Test Enanthate I do need novaldex or something like that right?

    I would definitively say to have some on hand in case you are prone to estrogen conversion via the aromatase enzyme. I started to develop early gyno symptoms at only 400mg of Test E. Others can take over a 1G a week and nothing, everyone is different. Don't take that chance. By having some Nolva on hand, I prevented a possible case of gyno, and will from now on use Nolva all throughout all my cycles.

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    Dude 3 months of training is nothing. Most guys bust their ass for years in the gym before hittin the juice. You shouldnt be concerned with the price of things cause you shouldnt even be taking them yet. Train right and eat right for a couple years and youll thank yourself for not taking steroids . And while your doing all that read about steroids for a while before you jump into taking them

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    yeah but im thinking of taking the juice to get me goin and if I do decide to take another cycle it would be to just cut body fat and get cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    yeah but im thinking of taking the juice to get me goin and if I do decide to take another cycle it would be to just cut body fat and get cut.
    **** i am sick of all these newbies coming on the board who have no idea how to train and eat and want to jump on AS.

    mate, your not ready simple, eat big and train hard and you will grow, if your not growing your not eating and training right simple, gear is not going to get you big by itself, and it should never be used to get you started. if anything its something that you work towards through years of training to get a good base foundation first, go do some research please.

    how old are you?

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    To get you going? Whats wrong with training and dieting to get you going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flight643
    i dont profess to be ridiculously knowledgable like the rest of the guys on here (who really know their stuff by the way), but i would def say to stay off any kind of drug while using AS. Why would you wanna corrupt your body like that while trying to improve it at the same time? Sounds counterproductive to me. Aside from the fact that it probably is not a healthy decision anyway. But good luck in whatever you do.
    I second that !

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    not again....

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