fat & cycle????

[timmz11]

hey guys..some of you may not even take this question into consideration, then again ..some of you might...and thats what i want..haha
neways..here's the question guys...
i know that im suppose to gain a lil fat while on my bulking cycle, but how much fat should i assume to gain..i know that this is kinda a open ended question because everyone is different and so on..but is there any numbers at all you all should put out? about how much fat i should gain from my cycle
current stats : 187 lbs, 13.8% bf, 6'1",
this will be my first cycle..and thus far it is goin to look like this:

1-4 dbol 25mg ED
1-10 test en. 225mg E4D
.25 armidex + 10 nolva ed throughout cycle
pct. 100mg clomid + 20 mg. nolva for 30 days

diet is 324 protein, 450 carbs, 78 fats, 3800 kcals

what can u telll me fella's anything...or i am shooting for nothing here???

[ColdSore]

on 3800 cals and your size i would say probly 2% or so...if any at all..you might lean some...everyone is different

[Swellin]

This really varies from individual to individual. I have been burning fat on my bulker...really odd. I am eating plenty, but I am burning fat. You also need to realize that if you don't gain any fat, and you gain muscle, your bf% will drop.

Having said that, I went into this cyucle expecting to gain up to 2% bf. I started around 16% and figured that I would tolerate up to 18. If I got above that, I would start hitting the cardio...seriously.

I would think that 2%bf gain should be the upper limit. After all of the hard work, covering up the muscle with a layer of lard would be disheartening.

[fabry]

is timmy11 pct correct? --> question for mod/pro/vet
i've always read about clomid 300/100/50!!!
just curious coz i will start same cycle soon and experienced always suggested me the above formula...

[scottninpo]

300/100/50 is correct, go with that, and you'll be good

[Swellin]

is timmy11 pct correct? --> question for mod/pro/vet
i've always read about clomid 300/100/50!!!
just curious coz i will start same cycle soon and experienced always suggested me the above formula...

Some folks have sides from the clomid at 300. Instead, they will run clomid @100 for 28 days. This seems to cut down on the clomid sides.
So, yes this can be a legit pct.

[timmz11]

thanx for everything again fella's...