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    1st cycle results....What to change for 2nd

    After my first cycle of test only, I was happy with my strength gains and put on about 20 lbs. body weight...I followed the cycle with nolvadex ....I have been off for a month and lost 10 lbs. right away(within first 2 weeks off from juice) and then gained about 8 back training natural..

    Bench (1MMR)---Up 45lbs
    Squat---Up 50lbs

    My question is...For my second cycle, would adding clomid to pct help keep more gains...or is that just to help testicular function. I had no problem in that area as far as shutting down. The nolvadex took care of it I guess...I'm just looking to keep more of my weight on..Any suggestions are appreciated.

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    Test E 500mg/wk 1-10
    Decca 300mg/wk 1-10
    (possiby) D-bol 30mg/wk 1-4

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    I would add the clomid to the end of the cycle doing the 300/100/50 layout. Maybe bump the deca up to 400mg, and bump the dbol up to 35mg maybe 40 if you need more( i need to take 40mg).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    I would add the clomid to the end of the cycle doing the 300/100/50 layout. Maybe bump the deca up to 400mg, and bump the dbol up to 35mg maybe 40 if you need more( i need to take 40mg).

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    Will that help keep gains or is it just for testicular theropy?? I've always heard it just helps your nuts start working again...Which i gues getting natural test back up would help keep gains too...??

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    Well yes it will bring your nut back but It will also help keep your gains. I do not even use nolva for PCT only clomid and it helps keep almost all my gains. Of course if I were to run a larger cycle i would add nolva to the combo too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    Well yes it will bring your nut back but It will also help keep your gains. I do not even use nolva for PCT only clomid and it helps keep almost all my gains. Of course if I were to run a larger cycle i would add nolva to the combo too.
    Really...i've always heard vice versa...nolva only not clomid...But i think i can get clomid easier this time around so may try it out...Nolva is best for Gyno symptoms though correct??

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    yeah nolva is great especailly if you see any sign of gyno. I know some research companies even have a clomid/nolva combo though I have never tried it out myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anasci.org
    you could even start taking the clomid a week or so before the end of your cycle, that would help to keep test levels semi steady when you stop taking the test and it wont be such a shock to the body.. and will help keep gains
    i have never tried this, in theory it sounds like a great idea.

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    **** my post that made me a senior member was such a bad one...........oh well

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