after researching a little more!

[Bigbowboski]

I think i have come up with a plan that will fit me.

im 5 10 1/2
25 years old
218 ilbs
about 16-17 bf

1-10 400 mg test e.
1-2 100mcg liq clen off wks 3-4 on 5-6 off 7-8 on 9-10
1-6 liq t3 off 7,8,9,10

k tablets in hand
plently of water 1.5 to 2 gallons of h20
good diet of 3000 cals plus
200g plus protein
low fat less than 0.5g per body weight
maximum of 200g carbs per day

also i may throw in 10 weeks of d bol 30 mg per day.

pct now in hand, clomid, nolvadex 2 to 3 weeks after cycle

anyone good with this?

[Hawgz]

is that not to much Dbol ...i hear you should only use it approx. 4 -6 weeks

[DF2003]

wow thats alot of d-bol there!

[Consistency]

only run the d bol for the first 4 weeks... you will kill your liver if you do 10 weeks!

[Bigbowboski]

only run the d bol for the first 4 weeks... you will kill your liver if you do 10 weeks!

my bad, i got caught up with the 10's i meant 6 weeks d bol.

so you guys think it will be ok to run the d bol

any other critiques?

[DF2003]

run it 4 weeks bro!

[Bigbowboski]

run it 4 weeks bro!

opps sorry

ok 4 it is!!!

[DF2003]

good luck to ya

[Bigbowboski]

opps sorry

ok 4 it is!!!

any other critiques?

[Mr. Death]

I would up your protein intake to 250-300g/day.

[Bigbowboski]

I would up your protein intake to 250-300g/day.

Will do!!

any others?

[Bigbowboski]

maybe later....bump

[Bigbowboski]

bump...


feeling good. im on it!!!!!

[Ambulance]

good luck...

[Bigbowboski]

Ok a little update.

Not any real big gains to speak of, but my strength has went up, i am experiencing some sides from the L clen and the T-3. Shakiness, nervousness. I think I need to back off the calories, i am starting to experience growth in the gut area. my arms, chest and shoulders are showinf some signs of size gain. not to much though. I am also starting to see veins i never new I had. I just ned to burn more fat off.

Also i got in today my 10 ml 100 mg QV- EQ. I was thinking about introducing it on the 5th week at 200 mg a week for 5 weeks. Do any of you think this will help me achieve a leaner look?

Thanks, I will keep you posted

[Bigbowboski]

Sorry that was suppose to e 200mg of QV EQ not 100mg

[Da Bull]

Sorry that was suppose to e 200mg of QV EQ not 100mg

Save the EQ for later,it needs to be run for 12 wks @ 400mgs wkly to be most effective.

[Bigbowboski]

Thanks

Do you think I need to lay off of the calories a little? I am starting to see my belly expand. i dont want that. Last week I was a little leaner and defined

[Bigbowboski]

update

Had a great workout today. I am really starting to see the strength go up. i went from 75lb dumbell press "flat" to 90's. One of the guys from the station was working out with me and asked me point blank "what are you on man" he couldnt believe i was doing what he was doing and he has been at it for years. Very big solid guy. of course i told him, it was from dedication,, I WASNT LYING!!!

[Bigbowboski]

I can really start to tell a difference in the shape of my body. my waist is getting smaller,my smoach has flattened,my chest,shoulders,bis and tris are really starting to show mass. Even my legs and calves are starting to grow.

I went from 50 to 70 lb dumbell shoulder press "upright shoulder press" I really cant believe it. maybe its the mental game,but I know one thing is for sure, im starting to look like i did when i was 17-18 years old. Which i was a nig natural **** then, and well defined.

I think i might lower the dosage of L clen . the **** sides are bothering me.

Im still on my strict diet.

I kepp posting.. i wish i new how to post pics on here. I cant believe how I looked prior to this cycle.

[Bigbowboski]

and one more thing

the acne is starting to show up rather bad on my shoulders and kneck.

any suggestions on anti acne products?

thanks