01-26-2004, 02:53 PM #1Junior Member
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when injecting into the shoulder...
and I use a one inch pin... is it safe to say push it in all the way??
I will be injecting into the shoulder for the first time real soon...
01-26-2004, 02:56 PM #2
Good post bro I would like to know to. Most of the guys I know use 25g 5/8 pinz though.
01-26-2004, 02:58 PM #3
I use a 25g 5/8 same for tri
01-26-2004, 02:59 PM #4Respected Member
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I use 25g 1" for all sites
01-26-2004, 03:01 PM #5
i use a 25g 1inch pin into the middle delt and push it all the way in.
01-26-2004, 03:05 PM #6Originally Posted by Agent Smith
01-26-2004, 03:08 PM #7Originally Posted by whiteykauai
01-26-2004, 03:11 PM #8
For the injection into the Deltoid muscle:
Then, take a brand new syringe out of its wrapper, remove its plastic top, draw about 2 ccs of air into it and insert it into the vial. Inject this air into the vial; this creates pressure within the vial and makes it easier to draw out oil based preparations. Then, turn the vial upside-down and slowly draw out the oil until youve overdrawn at least 1/4 cc. For example, if someone was going to take a shot of 1 cc, they should pull out approximately 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 ccs of liquid, then tap the side of the case to help get the air bubbles that were drawn into the syringe to come to the top. At that point, the excess 1/4 to 1/2 cc could be injected back into the vial and the needle removed. Then, hold the syringe needle-side-up and continue to tap it to encourage all the air bubbles to come to the top of the syringe. Now, take another clean syringe, remove it from its sterile package and unscrew the needle from the syringe. Exchange the brand new needle for the one that has just been injected into the stopper. By using two needles for every injection, you can take advantage of using the full sharpness of the pin. The needle does suffer some dulling when it is pushed through the firm rubber stopper on a vial. It is important not to touch this needle before the injection. It should not come into contact with a counter top, your fingers, nor should it be cleaned with alcohol. This needle is sterile and should not be touched. At this point, once again swab the injection site with alcohol, then press the stopper of the syringe holding it needle-side-up, until the slight air bubbles that are at the top are pressed out. Once a bead of oil has appeared at the top of the needle, allow it run down the surface of the needle which provides lubrication. At this time, take the syringe and hold it like a dart. Use the other hand to stretch the skin at the injection site and simply push the sharp clean needle in. After inserting it deep into the muscle, pull back on the stopper for a few seconds to make sure it does not fill up with blood which would indicate that the needle had been injected into a blood vessel. Providing there is no blood present in the syringe, slowly press the stopper down until all the oil is injected. Then, quickly pull the needle out and take another alcohol swab and press firmly on the injection site. This will minimize bleeding, if there is any, and by firmly pressing on the injection site and slightly massaging it, some of the soreness may be eliminated. It is important that the liquid is not injected too quickly as this causes more pain at the site during the injection and in the proceeding days.
After this procedure has been completed, return the plastic caps to shield the needles and make sure they are discarded properly.
To avoid discomfort and excessive scar tissue at the injection site, it is not wise to inject more than 2 ccs of solution per shot. It is also not prudent to use the same injection site more than twice a week (once a week is preferred).
01-26-2004, 03:21 PM #9
I use a 23g 1in pin, make sure you massage the injection site after, my delts get sore right after injecting so massage and movement helps the oil dissipate from the site.
01-26-2004, 03:29 PM #10Originally Posted by Chapman393
01-26-2004, 03:32 PM #11
25g 5/8 pin.....
01-26-2004, 04:35 PM #12Originally Posted by Shud
25g takes too **** long to fill. I use 23 or 22g 1 1/2 in. pins......It isn't too deep when you use it, you don't penetrate deep enough into the muscles when you use a one inch pen....For all sights exccept shoulders I use 23g......for the shoulders i use 23 by 1/2, but not all the way.almost all the way.......Don't you have a higher risk of absesses when you only go 1"...
01-26-2004, 05:06 PM #13Originally Posted by shootdeep
01-26-2004, 05:39 PM #14
I use a 25 guage 1 inch needle no probs in the delts. Why would you increase the risk of abscess's with a 1 inch pin?
01-26-2004, 05:41 PM #15
For the shoulder I always use 1 inch needles and push it all the way in, so I dont think youll have any problems. gl
01-26-2004, 05:49 PM #16
i use 24g 1 1/2inch everywhere
01-26-2004, 07:04 PM #17
Delts are easy bro, use a 1" and push it all the way in. Well, depending on how much muscle you have in your delts. You might want to go with a 5/8".
But as far as pain goes, delts are easy. Plus you don't have to be all twisted around trying to shot yourself like you do for glutes. For delts, you can just sit there and take your time, in a comfortable position. ya know
01-26-2004, 11:38 PM #18
23ga. 1" slides right in and I think I have fairly small delts. Hit it in the middle and you will have no problems. Make sure to have a towel ready though as the capillaries on the surface like to bleed a little. Nothing to be worried about poke your body anywhere and you will bleed a little.
01-27-2004, 12:38 AM #19
nah i think 25 is alright.....its good to inject slow anyway...
if im doing water based in my shoulder i will use 23g but oil i use 25....
Originally Posted by Jaker B' Huge
01-27-2004, 12:57 AM #20
i use 25G 5/8....goes smoothly all the time....and somebody mentioned a problem with taking to long to draw when using a 25G pin....all you do is use a 22G pin to draw then switch the tips...it's all good!!
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