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    Any juice not convert to estrogen?

    i know they're are a million different kinds of juice, so there is probably a ton that don't aromatize. I'm just curious cuz i had this slight gyno problem, and if i decide to run another cycle in the future, i think i outta be weary of running strong androgens such as test and dbol .

    isnt deca only slighty androgenic ? winny? i'm more concerned w/bulking drugs though, cuz i'm already cut enough, just need size....

    thanks bros.........

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    do a search , that will anwser all your questions

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    primo

    primo,tren

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    anavar

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    Problem is you say you want to bulk, and that's a tad bit hard without the major test brothers in the cycle. Tren /Anavar , they are good for strength, not sure how good for size (never tried them myself).

    You had a gyno problem even when taking Nolvadex /Arimidex and what not? Did you leave these out? Or maybe not know about them?

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    i had a gyno problem taking adex throughout, and nolva when i got itchy.
    my gyno isnt that bad though. it looks fine, there's just a lump about the size of a dime under one nip.
    i took 1-AD in the beginning of the summer, and ate some dbols a month or so before i cycled w/test and dbol , and i think the combo of both left alot of estrogen in me ready for gyno. i know it was a dumb **** thing to do, but nothing i can do about it now. like i said, it doesnt look bad, and who knows, it still may go away (i still have a few days of PCT left, and i'll prob. stay on nolva for a few more weeks).

    anyways, what about Deca ? isnt that a low androgen steroid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TicAl
    anyways, what about Deca? isnt that a low androgen steroid?
    Yes, however, you then gotta worry about the progesterone sides, and I believe there is no pill for that. Best thing to do (from what I've heard) is take it with Winny. You also gotta worry about the infamous "deca dick"

    If you were to take say 300-400mg a week you'd probably be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terinox
    Yes, however, you then gotta worry about the progesterone sides, and I believe there is no pill for that. Best thing to do (from what I've heard) is take it with Winny. You also gotta worry about the infamous "deca dick"

    If you were to take say 300-400mg a week you'd probably be fine.
    bromo or vit b6 will help surpress progesterone gyno. but if gyno is your worry, finish up your pct- diet and train hard for a couple months then hit some test. but starting nolva a wk out from cycle and continue through till after pct with clomid.

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    masteron is a high androgenic and doesnt convert to estrogen at any dosage. Big $$$ and hard to find though.

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