In all Opinion's

**cannons** · 01-27-2004, 08:52 PM

What is the cleanest cycle you can take without having to worry too much about gyno. Even if you are running nolv all the through. To gain a solid 20 lbs mass.

**popa** · 01-27-2004, 08:56 PM

run all fast-acting esters

**cannons** · 01-27-2004, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by popa

run all fast-acting esters

Which would you prefer

**popa** · 01-27-2004, 09:05 PM

prop 1-12
fina 4-10
EQ 1-15(NOT FAST-ACTING BUT GOOD TO ADD)

you can use wiiny as well

**cannons** · 01-27-2004, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by popa

prop 1-12
fina 4-10
EQ 1-15(NOT FAST-ACTING BUT GOOD TO ADD)

you can use wiiny as well

what about test cyp, EQ, and winstrol

**popa** · 01-27-2004, 09:11 PM

long acting esters gives more problems with gyno then fast-acting cause the test is in your body longer and has more time to convert into estrogen , but you never know, you might no be sensitive to gyno everyone is different, if you run nolva at 20mgs ed throught out your cycle you shoulnt have too much of a problem

**cannons** · 01-27-2004, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by popa

long acting esters gives more problems with gyno the fast-acting cause the test is in your body longer, but you never know, you might no be sensitive to gyno everyone is different, if you run nolva at 20mgs ed throught out your cycle yoyu shoulnt have too much of a problem

The reason i ask is because I got gyno about 31/2 years ago from being stupid and not taking any anti E's. Im goin in for surgery in a couple of weeks and plan on doing a cycle. I have a bottle of stan 50 a bottle of test cyp and I was thinking of getting some EQ, I have plenty of nolv and plan on taking it all the way through my cycle. Do you think i have much to worry about if I take little doses. I think i am real gyno prone.

**Klossus** · 01-27-2004, 10:02 PM

remove the gland and you wont have to worry about it

**cannons** · 01-27-2004, 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=Klossus]remove the gland and you wont have to worry about it[/QUOTWont my nipple indent if they remove the gland

**wingsofazrael** · 01-28-2004, 09:54 PM

this is how id run it...

1-10 EQ (400mg ew)
1-12 Prop (75-100 ed)
1-10 Tren (75 ed)

i cant remember how long EQ is active after the last shot, im thinking either 2 or 3 weeks after last shot. run the prop almost until pct. stop the tren a couple weeks before coming off prop to making recovery easier. i would still recommend arimidex @.50mg ed and nolvadex @10mg ed all the way through pct. during pct, maybe bump the nolva to 20mg. should be good to go.