IM new and have a cycle proposed

[Oo Strung Out oO]

hi im 20 years old... 5-8... 150 lbs... and im planning on doing a cutting cycle.

1-10 Eq 400mg week
1-10 Test Ent. ?/mg per week
1-10 Fina 75 mg ED
1-4 Anavar 35mg ed
5-12 Winstrol depot 50mg eod
10-12 clen
10-12 t-3

nolva...hcg ...clomid....?

[Swellin]

You weigh 150 at 5' 8" and need to do a cutting cycle?
I can't imagine that you have done enough naturally to take the plunge.

I would say to wait a bit, and see what you can do naturally. What are your goals? What is your current bf?

As for that cycle...it is not for a beginner! I doubt that many folks have done anything of that magnitude by their 3rd cycle.

As for your compounds...test e and eq make a great bulker...would work much better running them for 12 weeks. Fina for 10 weeks of ED? This has got to be your first cycle, and that is a ****load of gear to run.

Hopefully some of the other guys will be along soon to try and help even further.

[50%Natural]

yeah bro, take it back to basics, you should be able to grow off of 400mg or 500mg of test enanthate for 10-12 weeks. Too many coumpounds for your size.

[50%Natural]

But, I do think you need to gain more weight naturally before jumping on anabolics. How long have you been lifting? Do you get 300g protein and 400g of carbs a day? Check your diet and training schedule before injecting yourself with hormones.

[dmania]

all im really trying to do is cut down for summer not get anymore mass... my size im happy with for now.. but i want to shed BF .. so what is the best route for that.. i get my protein intake and whatnot.... it was just a theoretical cycle that was open for changes.

[kahn]

Well from everything that i have learned, is that your proposed cycle is pretty intense for a first time, especially the fina. And if ur 5'8, and only 150 then u probably dont have that much bf and should be able to achieve ur goals fairly quickly with the proper diet and hitting the gym religiously. Don't be so quickto hit the juice, see how far u can take yourself first, and you'll be surprised.

[sigrabbit]

Bro, the goodies you propose will not be necessary for you to drop bodyfat. Diet and cardio is all you need. Stay away from that cycle for quite some time.

[Oo Strung Out oO]

thanks for all the advice... hmmm.... what can i do to shed some BF while building muscle.... and im leaning toward a cycle... so im just trying to do it in a safe and effective way.

[BUYLONGTERM]

To young, and way to many compounds......

Cardio in the morning on an empty stomache...Fat will melt away.

[Oo Strung Out oO]

alright... im young... i get that part... in a theorectical cutting cycle what does it contain... i mean im really not having my question answered. but thanks anyway. ive been around for a while... sometimes id ask for a cycle idea... and people would say propose one and we will critique it... i proposed one and its been critiqued down to NOTHING. so that wasnt really what i was lookin for, but thanks.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Well, I think most people are trying to tell you that you are running WAY to much stuff for a first cycle.

1. Your Test should be at least equal MG to the EQ
2. IMO, EQ should be run longer than 10 weeks
3. I would run Anavar for 6 weeks and personally I saw nothing from Anavar under 40mg
4. A short cycle like that, you probably Do NOT need HCG
5. Nolva should be on hand, or can be run at 10/20mg ED
6. Fina? I definitely wouldn't touch it in my first cycle
7. Winstrol should be run ED @50mg for 6 weeks for best results.

OK, once again, for a first cycle, you are running 7 different compounds.. That to me is crazy.

Test should only be run for a first cycle. It's that simple. What happens if you run into side effects? How in the world are you going to determine which one is giving you trouble? At the age of 20, there is NO WAY you body cannot get bigger naturally

I know thats not what you want to hear, but it's our responsibility as a whole to give out the best possible advise.

Best of luck

BLT

[Oo Strung Out oO]

that was excellent advice... but its not my first cycle... i listed my cycle experience on my profile.. sorryy if i didint include in in the post. this will be my 4th.

[Swellin]

that was excellent advice... but its not my first cycle... i listed my cycle experience on my profile.. sorryy if i didint include in in the post. this will be my 4th.

What did your past cycles look like? What compounds have you used in the past?

[Oo Strung Out oO]

ive used test cyp, winny 50 mg , fina , a-50 , test susp. , test ent. , t-400 , clenbuterol , t-3 ........... all with positive results and with post cycle therapy .

[kahn]

well if u want to just harden up, and cut try a prop, winny, and clen cycle. I'm starting that in a few days myself, and hope to see awesome results.

[BUYLONGTERM]

that was excellent advice... but its not my first cycle... i listed my cycle experience on my profile.. sorryy if i didint include in in the post. this will be my 4th.

4 cycles and your only 20?? WOW. I hope you've run proper PCT and gotten plenty of check ups from a Dr. I just hope you don't screw yourself up in the long haul..

[Shud]

i dont think u should run anything....
@ 150 after three cycles something isnt right....
check your diet and training program...u should be able to put on some more weight without gear...or atleast do a worthwile cycle...

[Oo Strung Out oO]

thanks for everyones concern but i guess ill try to just do more research and figure this out on my own

[BUYLONGTERM]

i dont think u should run anything....
@ 150 after three cycles something isnt right....
check your diet and training program...u should be able to put on some more weight without gear...or atleast do a worthwile cycle...

Bro, nice catch!! Yeah, 3 cycles and you only weight 150 pounds? You definitely aren't doing something right. Unless your starting weight was 85pounds.

[Bartleby]

yeah i agree with Shud..if youve run 4 cycles and only weigh 150 you arent doing something right...look at your dite/training routine....as for AS i think you should hold off a little longer, also if youre 150 why are you trying to cut?? I think you really need to look at your diet before just jumping on another cycle....

[Oo Strung Out oO]

alright . ive seen the concensus and i guess ill hold up for a few... but i am gonna do another one and when i figure out what ill write back in this post or something.. thanks guys

[Bartleby]

alright . ive seen the concensus and i guess ill hold up for a few... but i am gonna do another one and when i figure out what ill write back in this post or something.. thanks guys

good choice bro...just keep researching...

[Shud]

we arnt having a go man...
we do want to help....
imo...u r just wasting money and your time doing another cycle....
gear wont work if your not eating and training right...your better off getting fully prepared before you spend your money on the gear.....
stay on the board..research and ask questions....then come back with a few extra pounds and a better looking cycle and you will be good to go....

[BUYLONGTERM]

Good luck and do NOT be a stranger. we are definitely here to help you!

[mman]

What were your stats before starting your first cycle, and how long had you been training??