friends question

**Jackman** · 01-29-2004, 10:33 PM

Ok a bro of mine thinks he should shoot sust 1 every 4 days and he also only wants to take 10 of them with 20 winnies. Please explain to him whats wrong with that and how he would like his gains alot better if he took 20 and shot it at LEAST 3 times a week.

**Jackman** · 01-29-2004, 10:47 PM

no bitters?

**big swoll** · 01-29-2004, 10:50 PM

i agree with you Jackman

**DF2003** · 01-29-2004, 10:51 PM

yea we'll he needs to understand due to the 4 different esters of test in sust and each being somewhat time released he needs to shoot atleast e3d ya know to keep blood levels from spiking. i think he would have decent gains off e4d but not very sure. if he's going to run sust alone i would run e3d. for the winny he has 20 orals????

Originally Posted by Jackman

Ok a bro of mine thinks he should shoot sust 1 every 4 days and he also only wants to take 10 of them with 20 winnies. Please explain to him whats wrong with that and how he would like his gains alot better if he took 20 and shot it at LEAST 3 times a week.

**Jackman** · 01-29-2004, 10:53 PM

no just 20 zambons which is only 3 weeks of winny

**DF2003** · 01-29-2004, 11:15 PM

well if hes going to do a 10 week sust cycle i think he should cycle in the winny weeks 7-14 also pick up some more winny.
jackman check your pm bro

**DF2003** · 01-29-2004, 11:40 PM

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ead.php?t=2051

**DF2003** · 01-29-2004, 11:41 PM

that thread by cycleon should help

**Jackman** · 01-29-2004, 11:46 PM

he only wants to do 5 weeks 10 shots of sust!

Swellin · 01-29-2004, 11:55 PM

In all likelihood, he will make some gains from it...no way will they be the same as running a real cycle. Why not a single ester? The long acting esters in sust will be a complete waste for him if he runs it this short. There are many reasons why this cycle is not a good one. In fact, if he were to post it himself, it would likely get flamed (not by me, but I certainly have seen it happen).
This should not be coinsidered a cycle....more like a mistake.

Do yourself a big favor "friend," and join the boards. Do some research on here and ask some questions on your own. Jackman, I wish your buddy the best, but he won't get the best with this kind of cycle.

**Jackman** · 01-30-2004, 10:01 AM

thx bro he reconsidered and is going to do 20 shots thanks guys

**DF2003** · 01-30-2004, 10:05 AM

no prob jackman! hey did ya get my pm?

**monkeyjuice** · 01-30-2004, 10:13 AM

shoot 250mg of sus every 3 days for 10 weeks.

When I did that, the sus didn't even kick in untill the 5th week or so. Maybe even jumpstart it with some Dbol @ 30mg everyday. Start the winny week 8 and run it for 6 weeks. This way when your done with the winny, you will be on time to start your PCT. PCT should start 3 weeks after your last shot of SUS. Since you will run 6 weeks of Winny, you last shot of winny will be the day before you need to start PCT. It will all work out perfect, and you will love your results.

PS. Make sure your diet is 100% ready, because that is the only thing that will make you grow. Steroids aren't magic, they are just 25% of the equation.