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    zibep is offline Junior Member
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    primo and winstrol, am I a pussy?

    Lookin' for a safe stack to do my second cycle. My first cycle was 12 weeks of 400mg test, 400mg deca and 30mg dbol ed for first 4 weeks. I got gyno symptoms after 10 freakin' days and had to take mass amounts of nolva to keep it under control. Thus my gains pretty much stopped. I don't know why I needed so much nolva, but I did.

    So screw that noise. I want something safer this time. My body reacts sensitively to all medication. So I'm thinkin:

    12 weeks of:
    300mg primobolan each week
    50mg winstrol ed

    It's very expensive, but I don't really care a ton about that. I want something that will give me gains without major sides and gains that I can keep.

    What do you think of that cycle? My goal would be to lean up a bit and get some good solid mass gains. Also, would I need clomid after a cycle like that?

    Peace out.

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    You should try running l-dex, femera or some type of other anti-e with nolva. This could help with you getting gyno symptoms.

    You need test in there.... also hopefully the primo is legit

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    you should limit the winstrol to 5-6 weeks I think. your gyno symptoms could possibly have come from the deca in that first cycle, in which case the nolva would not have helped. someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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    That is true about the DECA ...it produces progesteron...regular test converts to estrogen in the body and NOLV, DEX, and all those other anti-e's will help. BUt FINA and DECA you need BROMO to help with the gyno.

    Your PRIMO and WINNY will not get you mass gains. You will cut up and gain some muscle depending on how you eat. Remember PRIMO is a long acting ester(it is an enanthate ), so be sure to run it for 12 to 16 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdog@usi
    you should limit the winstrol to 5-6 weeks I think. your gyno symptoms could possibly have come from the deca in that first cycle, in which case the nolva would not have helped. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
    Correct...I wouldn't run Winstrol for more than 6 weeks.

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    good luck finding legit primo bro.

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    zibep is offline Junior Member
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    Interesting stuff. I read right here on this site in steroid profiles that both primo and winstrol can produce mass gains. Is this not true? Remember, I am looking for slow, sustained gains.

    As far as my gyno symptoms go, I doubt it was deca induced, just because when I did take 40-80mg of nolva per day it went away. Honestly I think it was mostly from the dbol .

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