T3-clen guys I need help please respond

I am looking to cut up and loose body fat but I don't want to become too lean. My plan is to take clen with t3 two weeks on, two weeks off with eca in between. My question is if I follow a mass building diet while taking these supplements would it be a waste of money as a contradiction or would I get cut keeping size? I am 5'8, 185 lbs, body fat around 20%, lifting for 3years. My goal is 165 lbs, body fat around 12% and still look big without looking too lean. Please help. Any knowledge would be great.
thanx :unsure: :unsure: :yellowcon :yellowcon

you cant bulk and cut at the same time.

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Originally Posted by sin

you cant bulk and cut at the same time.

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yes you can

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Originally Posted by Pinch

yes you can

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ok. explain.

so i shouldnt do this like a waste of time
pinch or sin can u explain

dude...bulk then cut..its definetly the smartest way to go..this way u can get big and then cut as much as u want until ur the desired size....the actual poundage may not be wut u planned but how u look is more important than how much u actually weigh