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    Showtime_69 is offline New Member
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    Talking people that know what they're talking about only respond (HGH)

    I'm just getting ready to start my second proper cycle. I'm really well educated on steriods , it's always nice to have another opion. I'm 21 years old and play football in canada. Over the next ten weeks I going to take:

    GH - week 1-10
    fast acting deca - week 1-8
    testoviron - week 2-8
    winny tabs week 7-12

    The goal of this cycle is to gain a solid 15 to 20 pounds of quality muscle.
    any feed back would great thanks.......

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    This is what I would do if this would be my 2nd cycle.....

    I would drop HGH for sure....10 weeks IMO is not enough......+ you would have to run it at 4ius a day.....since your body is producing 1-1.5ius on daily basis during that age......

    Second....The way you run your test is too short....

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    1-10 500mg Testivirons
    1-8 100mg EOD fast acting Deca
    8-12 50mg Winny ED
    13 recovery

    Thats what I would do...
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    Showtime_69 is offline New Member
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    The thing is I 've exparimented over that past 2 years and I don't want the water and I play slotback so the less the water retension the better and I don't wnat to completly **** up my body.
    I'd like to do this cyle and take a break for a couple years without withering away.

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    Watch your diet and you wont have any problems....watch the sodium....

    Did you know that HGH will also make you carry a bit of water....
    I would leave the HGH alone till you have enough for 3-6 months and when your older....you can also take other things to keep your water retension at check....
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    T-BombNo2 is offline Banned
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    A quality muscle stack would be EQ, Masteron , Test prop, and HGH. It'll put on lean muscle withought lots of water, the rest would be up to you

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    GH is gonna be a waste at this point in time...

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    Like stated above....GH needs to be ran for longer than 10 weeks to be effective. Also you are young...why mess with GH now....Run the test a little longer (10 weeks)
    Be sure you have proper PCT on hand also
    Good luck bro

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    here's another vote for hgh being a waste of time and money for you, if you're worried about blowing up on water, run eq instead of deca , and prop instead of enanthate , or keep the testoviron and run ldex with it, if you play football, the wintsrol will make your joints "dry" and cause you to cramp up and make your muscles tight

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    im with all the other bros, even durabolin will make u hold water, however if your ok with the that swtch the testo for prop and run it along with the durabolin, drop the hgh as its a waist of money, also run some arimidex 1mg a day shoudl cure any water bloat. I would say forget the winnie for the same reasons stated above

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