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I'm about to start a small mass cycle before summer that looks like this:
wks 1-10 400mg deca
wks 1-12 100mg test prop eod
wks 13-15 50mg clomid ed
My question is:
If I take .25 cc liquidex ed, will that be enough for the antie's? I have about 15 tabs of 20mg nolvadex, but wanted to save it for when I was waiting for my clomid to kick in. Do I need more nolva? Preciate any suggestions.
I'd chose nolva over liquidex anyday, liquidex is more to aid in the bloating comapred to regular nolvadex. If your not prone to gyno you'd more then likely be ok as that seems like more then enough nolva to keep on hand if you chose to not run it with the clomid. It's up to you, I would go ahead and run the cycle, but thats just me.
It's probably ok, but it's still a good idea to have Nolvadex on hand just in case gyno sets in. I personally would get some more nolvadex.
Is liquidex not that good for protecting against gyno(as nolva is)?
Liquidex is good, but you need nolva in case you accidentally let your estrogen get too high on you, once you do that, liquidex cant do anything about excessive levels of estrogen in the body. You need nolva to guarantee no gyno problems but you can just do liquidex starting right away for prop and just take nolva when and if your nipples get sensative, itchey, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by fina fiend
Sounds like good advise, thanks. I really wouldn't mind having some water weight. I just don't want gyno. How's 10mg ed. Or should I wait for symptoms before I start taking. I'm really not prone to gyno; I just want to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ntpadude
you should run clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg day2-11, and 50mg day 12-21, and you should start about 3 or 4 days after your last shot of prop.Quote:
Originally Posted by fina fiend
Sounds good, thanks for the advise.Quote:
Originally Posted by armwrestler22
If you want the water wieght then weight untill you see (if you do) any signs of gyno before taking the nolvadex.
Well its possible liquidex can crash your estrogen so that there is NONE in your body. Nolva along with liquidex or clomid can replace that estrogen with a minimal value necessary. I ran liquidex all the way thru my cycle and occassional nolva, my PCT blood test came back with triglycerides thru the roof at 296 and my total cholesterol at 215 with low HDL value of 26 but my doctor said it was all actually pretty good considering the long steroid cycle I had been thru.Quote:
Originally Posted by fina fiend
I ordered some more nolva today after hearing all the advise. I think I'll see how long I can go before I start taking either one. I'll have both just in case or I might start taking both after about 4 weeks. Thanks for the advise.
Point taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGFuryZ