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    Questions on first cycle

    i am curious as to what i should run for a first cycle to see mostly strength gains. im not too interested in being huge i just want to be semi big and strong. i am 6'0 about 190lbs. also im 19. another question: i work out quite regularly and i cant seem to gain much muscle in my chest or legs. i feel like im doing the work outs right but still no gains. any suggestions?

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    19 bro..get you diet and training in check,you have NO reason to be using AS at this point in your life.


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    if your training is good then check your diet.

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    Well if your gona use aas anyway try

    wk 1-4 dianabol 30mg
    wk 1-10 test enth
    pct pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    19 bro..get you diet and training in check,you have NO reason to be using AS at this point in your life.


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    i agree. the time between now and when you're ready to use them should be spent learning, researching, training hard and eating right. when you are ready, you'll know what you need to know for a successful cycle.

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    At this age you should be able to gain without juicing bro, there is so many thread on this subject, please make a search and you will learn why not to use aas before the age of 21. I am sorry, this was probably something you didnt want to hear but, we are here to help out one another, and iam sorry to say but 19 years old is a little young for the use of aas. gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    19 bro..get you diet and training in check,you have NO reason to be using AS at this point in your life.


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    Ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PUMP
    Well if your gona use aas anyway try

    wk 1-4 dianabol 30mg
    wk 1-10 test enth
    pct pct

    i would say dont try anyway.....
    at 19 its too young like everyone is telling you.....
    they say this cos its the truth.....
    hold out for a few years......you will make some good strength increases with proper strength training and diet to complement....

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    i was just curious on what your suggestions were. thanks for your replys.

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    Hi,

    at 19 bro you shouldn't really do it but if you were going to I would suggest

    AS: 100 tabs Methandienone (Dianabol ) 10mg, 10ml vial Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca ) QV 300

    WK: 1-10 300mg Deca
    WK: 4-10 20mg/day Dianabol
    WK: 1-10 10mg/day Nolvadex
    WK: 12-15 20mg/day Nolvadex
    This is a slightly modified version of the Deca/D-Bol Stack
    it reflects the the use of the newer 300mg Nandrolone Decanoate and also the use of 100 tablets of a 10mg product of Dianabol. I have added the Nolvadex as its your first cycle you can't be too careful

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Hi,

    at 19 bro you shouldn't really do it but if you were going to I would suggest

    AS: 100 tabs Methandienone (Dianabol ) 10mg, 10ml vial Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca ) QV 300

    WK: 1-10 300mg Deca
    WK: 4-10 20mg/day Dianabol
    WK: 1-10 10mg/day Nolvadex
    WK: 12-15 20mg/day Nolvadex
    This is a slightly modified version of the Deca/D-Bol Stack
    it reflects the the use of the newer 300mg Nandrolone Decanoate and also the use of 100 tablets of a 10mg product of Dianabol. I have added the Nolvadex as its your first cycle you can't be too careful
    This is a horrible cycle. Where is the test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    This is a horrible cycle. Where is the test?

    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Hi,

    at 19 bro you shouldn't really do it but if you were going to I would suggest

    AS: 100 tabs Methandienone (Dianabol ) 10mg, 10ml vial Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca ) QV 300

    WK: 1-10 300mg Deca
    WK: 4-10 20mg/day Dianabol
    WK: 1-10 10mg/day Nolvadex
    WK: 12-15 20mg/day Nolvadex
    This is a slightly modified version of the Deca/D-Bol Stack
    it reflects the the use of the newer 300mg Nandrolone Decanoate and also the use of 100 tablets of a 10mg product of Dianabol. I have added the Nolvadex as its your first cycle you can't be too careful

    WRONG WRONG WRONG....Damit this stuff pisses me off.

    Do a search on "deca only" only cycles....

    peace,

    ttgb

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Hi,

    at 19 bro you shouldn't really do it but if you were going to I would suggest

    AS: 100 tabs Methandienone (Dianabol ) 10mg, 10ml vial Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca ) QV 300

    WK: 1-10 300mg Deca
    WK: 4-10 20mg/day Dianabol
    WK: 1-10 10mg/day Nolvadex
    WK: 12-15 20mg/day Nolvadex
    This is a slightly modified version of the Deca/D-Bol Stack
    it reflects the the use of the newer 300mg Nandrolone Decanoate and also the use of 100 tablets of a 10mg product of Dianabol. I have added the Nolvadex as its your first cycle you can't be too careful
    Bro, no flame, but you shouldn't be giving out advise, especially to someone who is only 19 years old...TO YOUNG.

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    I mean "deca dick", search for "deca dick" and see how many people deca without test have problems. Sure, some will say "I did it, and no problems"...but they don't know what the hell they are doing either.

    peace,

    ttgb

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    Quote Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig
    I mean "deca dick", search for "deca dick" and see how many people deca without test have problems. Sure, some will say "I did it, and no problems"...but they don't know what the hell they are doing either.

    peace,

    ttgb

    Give me a break I was only trying to give the guy a direction
    o btw heres the test

    wk1: 500mg Sustanon
    wk2-8 1000mg Sustanon
    wk2-9 50mg/day Proviron
    wk2-3 10mg/day Winstrol
    wk4-9 20mg/day Winstrol

    So if you really want the test here it is, this cycle will maximize the level of free testosterone in the body.
    The Proviron competitively inhibits both estrogen aromatization and testosterone to SHBG binding, and Winstrol adds to the androgen-induced lowering binding protein levels.

    Just because it says Newbie member doesn't mean I am

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    Not trying to flame you any further bro, granted that is a better cycle since it has test for base, but that cycle still sucks...especially for a first timer...and besides, he's only 19.

    peace,

    ttgb

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Give me a break I was only trying to give the guy a direction
    o btw heres the test

    wk1: 500mg Sustanon
    wk2-8 1000mg Sustanon
    wk2-9 50mg/day Proviron
    wk2-3 10mg/day Winstrol
    wk4-9 20mg/day Winstrol

    So if you really want the test here it is, this cycle will maximize the level of free testosterone in the body.
    The Proviron competitively inhibits both estrogen aromatization and testosterone to SHBG binding, and Winstrol adds to the androgen-induced lowering binding protein levels.

    Just because it says Newbie member doesn't mean I am
    Well, bro, no flame, but after seeing that cycle you proposed, and giving out that advise to not only someone who is to young to do AS, but using those dosages??? Sorry to say, but in my eyes, your STILL a NEWBIE
    Last edited by buylongterm; 02-04-2004 at 02:11 PM.

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    I don't know everything, but jesus, 1000 mg Sust a week for a first cycle! Thats ridiculous. He will have nowhere to go after that. Whats he gonna do, 2 grams of test a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Well, bro, no flame, but after seeing that cycle and giving out that advise to not only someone who is to young to do AS, but using those dosages??? Sorry to say, but in my eyes, your STILL a NEWBIE

    Well tryingtogetbig wanted to know were the test was so I had to show him
    suppose thats the last time i try and give any advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Well tryingtogetbig wanted to know were the test was so I had to show him
    suppose thats the last time i try and give any advice
    So to show him you decided to tell a 19 year old to do 1GRAM a week? come on now.

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    Injectables...calm down bro...stick around and learn all you can. It's cool that you are wanting to help...but all of the members have to be VERY careful when handing out advice. There's lots to learn here. Kick up your heels, read, ask questions, etc.

    peace,

    ttgb

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    Quote Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig
    Injectables...calm down bro...stick around and learn all you can. It's cool that you are wanting to help...but all of the members have to be VERY careful when handing out advice. There's lots to learn here. Kick up your heels, read, ask questions, etc.

    peace,

    ttgb
    Good call bro. I didn't mean to sound like a dick, but when I see that kind of advise, it scares me!!!! Imagine if he went off and did that cycle..

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    Ok my bad

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    youre only 19! when i was 19 i was thinking i was big and ready for everything...
    now im 32 and much bigger than i was 19! not so much, but it's ok, especially if i think that i wasnt constant and had to stop for 3 years coz of a car accident!
    im not sayin to wait another 13 years, but for sure you could wait another 2,3 or 4 years to start with aas and spend your money in supplements and concentratin in diet and training!
    but if u want to do it, make it simple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Good call bro. I didn't mean to sound like a dick, but when I see that kind of advise, it scares me!!!! Imagine if he went off and did that cycle..
    I know BLT, it scares me too! I was kind of taking out on him some things I have been seeing posted the last week or so by a bunch of newbies. The bad advice kills me, and it seems like there has been a lot lately.

    So injectables, just be careful with the advice bro...it's amazing how much there really is to learn. I learn something new everyday! I look forward to seeing you on AR!

    peace,

    ttgb

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectables
    Hi,

    at 19 bro you shouldn't really do it but if you were going to I would suggest

    AS: 100 tabs Methandienone (Dianabol ) 10mg, 10ml vial Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca ) QV 300

    WK: 1-10 300mg Deca
    WK: 4-10 20mg/day Dianabol
    WK: 1-10 10mg/day Nolvadex
    WK: 12-15 20mg/day Nolvadex
    This is a slightly modified version of the Deca/D-Bol Stack
    it reflects the the use of the newer 300mg Nandrolone Decanoate and also the use of 100 tablets of a 10mg product of Dianabol. I have added the Nolvadex as its your first cycle you can't be too careful
    I would throught in Test Depot also! wk 1-10

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