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02-04-2004, 09:15 AM #1
has been a long time...
But with everything good things come to those who wait.
First and foremost, this is a long awaited cycle...i've been off now for at least 4 months.
Ok, ladies and gents...here's the proposed cycle, all opinions are welcome, but first, the all important diet proposed and stats, with goal.
Currently i'm
5'8 (sorry, hasn't changed in a while)
210lbs (prolly 15-17%bf) - What it's the winter, i was bulking!
and for those who care, brown hair and brown eyes, i enjoy lifting weights, and sleeping, oh yeah, sex is fun too espeacially in the shower
All joking aside...
Diet I still have to fine tune, but my goal is to do exactly what I did last time, lean out, while adding maybe 5-10lbs of quality muscle. This isnt typically to hard or nearly as hard as people seem to think...espeacially considering my diet was **** for the last 4 months.
Protien intake - 300g a day
Carb intake - rotation, last time i did way to strict in the begining, went 200-75g over 7 day period rotation, this time i am thinking 300-125g per day rotated down towards the 125 (example would be Sunday 300g carbs, Monday 250g, and so on and so forth)
Fat intake - not sure on this one...i have a hard time balancing this into the caloric intake I should be gettin...i'm all about opinions on this one.
SUPP's
Multi-Vitamin
Flax Seed Oil (if i can find liquid)
Deca @ 400mg/wk (1-12)
Test @ 600mg/wk (1-12)
Clen @ 120mcg 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for 12 weeks Started at week 4, so that I have 4 weeks after cycle for PCT with it
Winny @ 50mg/Day (8-12) - Adding simply because i have it laying around.
I may include Fina in at the end of the cycle, with the winny simply because it combined with the winny is a great combo...at 75mg/Day (8-12)
Opinions, Critiques, ETC
I'm thinking I wanted to get down around 185, i figure I'll be decently lean at that point...after that I will revaluate considering i don't care about the weight, it's the BF that matters...and i want 8% (which i've had before and should be attainable again)
I'm guessing I have about 175-185lbs of lean muscle, and with the supplements i can add 5-10lbs, and be at 185-195, so realisitcally I'm guessing i'll be at around 195-200, at the end of this, but drop roughly 8bf% points...
Opinions are always welcome as stated before...
Great to be back, and I dig the new .CSS layout...
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02-04-2004, 09:23 AM #2
I would extend the test past the deca to help with shutdown from the deca..... What type of test are you using?
Deca @ 400mg/wk (1-12)
Test @ 600mg/wk (1-14)
Clen @ 120mcg 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for 12 weeks Started at week 4, so that I have 4 weeks after cycle for PCT with it
Winny @ 50mg/Day (11-16) - Adding simply because i have it laying around.
L-dex @ .25mg ED (1 - 16)
Nolva @ 10mg ED (1 - 16)
Start PCT 1 day after last winny dose...... I would use Clomid / Nolva / L-dex:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dexLast edited by TheMudMan; 02-04-2004 at 10:05 AM.
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02-04-2004, 09:25 AM #3
Also I wouldn't run deca and fina together............ also are you planning on running anti-e's in your cycle?
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02-04-2004, 09:51 AM #4
I apologize for not being specific with the test
Enanthate
The Deca /Fina mix, i was hella worried about...but i've never done deca, so i'm **** sure not dropping that
Guess the Fina's out.
Anti-E's during cycle, had not planned on it, as far as PCT, Clomid, Nolv on hand, and I'll have HCG Standing by a few 5000 iu's incase i need a quick ball dropper
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02-04-2004, 10:01 AM #5
Like MudMan said I would extend the test past the deca to aid in recovery, and I would also throw in at least some nolva at 10mg/ed throughout y our cycle if ur running 600mg/wk....better to be safe than sorry...other than looks good, good luck...
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02-04-2004, 10:06 AM #6
I made changes to the cycle to my post now i know what type of test you're running
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02-04-2004, 10:15 AM #7
It has been awhile since i've been around, just curious as to why the recommendation to run l-dex and nolv all the way through...?
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02-04-2004, 10:19 AM #8
The l-dex will keep test from converting to estrogen and the nolva will keep any estrogen that was converted from binding to the receptor sites. Also, Nolva acts as a SERM and will keep a healthy lipid profile. And then the obvious both will help with bloat
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02-04-2004, 10:22 AM #9
i knew what the l'dex does and the nolv...i guess the "evolution" of cycles is upon me...lol i remember back a year ago when people were including them in cycles, and people were saying it's a waste of money....i guess people are seeing the results..
also can i sub Arimidex for the l'dex...i know they are basically the same thing...
looks like i can add both of those relatively cheaply..
looks like it will only cost me an extra 150 to add both total...
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02-04-2004, 10:22 AM #10
Good to see you back!
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02-04-2004, 10:26 AM #11Originally Posted by KunipshunFit
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02-04-2004, 10:29 AM #12
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02-04-2004, 10:38 AM #13
decided against the fina....
here is the latest version of this cycle...
Deca @ 400mg/wk (1-10)
Test @ 600mg/wk (1-12)
Clen @ 120mcg 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for 12 weeks Started at week 4, so that I have 4 weeks after cycle for PCT with it
Winny @ 50mg/Day (10-14) - Adding simply because i have it laying around.
L-dex @ .25mg ED (1 - 14)
Nolva @ 10mg ED (1 - 14)
Mudman...i dropped 2 weeks off of a few things, i didn't want to be on 16 weeks, due to some timing issues with having to go out of state and not wanting to transport vials on a plane....what do you think of this?
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02-04-2004, 10:41 AM #14
Cycle looks good................ Good luck!
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02-04-2004, 11:32 AM #15
hmm...i do believe this will be a good cycle, never used l'dex before, so it should hold off some water (always a plus)...I've also never done Deca ...always did the Test/EQ route...
I'm thinking I may indeed love this cycle...MudMan, thanks for the help...
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02-05-2004, 11:16 AM #16
Ok wanted to update.
Since I have my Deca and Test in already, i just gotta pick up the rest of my goodies (prolly in a week or two) then i'm ready to start.
I know this is not related to my supplements, but i mean diet is a supplement, so i wanted to lay out my diet for the first 6 weeks to get opinions...
Oh yeah, i'm thinking of throwing in some t3 for the added benefits... I love options
Diet breakdown...
Breakfast 7:00am - 8 eggs (4 whole, 4 white)
1 bagle with Jelly
1/2 glass of OJ
Snack 10:00am - 2 cans albacor tuna
Lunch 1:00pm - 1 cup rice
1 potato
Red Meat (hamburger 98% lean, or steak)
Snack - 4:00pm 1 Can pineapple and 1 scoop Peanut Butter (I work out at 5:00, so this helps me get a quick burst of energy before working out)
2 scoops Whey Isolate Protien with 1cup Milk
Post workout - 6:30pm - Protien/Carb Bar 30g protien 60g carbs
Dinner - 8:45-9:00pm - Chicken, Cabbage/Broch...
Opinions welcome
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