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    Question Which is better???

    What do u guys think is a better FIRST cycle for massive size & strenght gain

    Cycle 1: 500mg Enanthate weekly (12weeks) & 40mg Dbol daily (4weeks)

    Cycle 2: 500mg Sustanon weekly (12weeks) 250mg Deca weekly(12weeks)
    and 40mg Dbol dialy (4weeks)

    Me and 3 of my buddies are all planning on doing one of these cycles, we've all been workin out for about 2yrs. Could u guys fill me in on the PCT, the details of it, thanks

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    for a first cycle, go with the enanthate , as far as pct, start 2 weeks after the last shot of enanthate:

    day 1 300mg clomid
    days 2-11 100mg clomid ED
    days 12-21 50mg clomid ED
    days 1-21 20mg nolva ED

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    Well, you have the dbol down either way. Got that right. As for Sust/deca vs. Enanthate . Man both look good I'd almost say the sust/deca but sust in order to get the advantage of the prop it needs to be taken E3D to the least if not E2D or ED. This keeps plasma levels constant. Enanthate on the other hand is suggestable because you can do it once a week and the levels stay constant through out thus not so frequent injections is needed. I prefer sust because I enjoy the multi esters but as for a novice and to keep less side affects for now go with Enanthate and save the sust for down the line when you can increase your cycle at higher dosage to EOD injections or ED with sustanon . You might just do the Enanthate with the Deca along with dbol. Try that. With out stats I would guess for a novice cycle Enanthate 400mg weekly with Deca 300mg weekly and keep the dbol where it's at.

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    I would go with the first cycle. That is very similar to my upcoming first cycle.
    Good Luck

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    1st cycle is the best for a first... see how your body reacts to the test only. the second cycle you addded would be good for a 2nd or third cycle. follow scottninpo's advice on pct.

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    im 6' 198lbs, about 14% bf(according to that machine at the gym) so i wanted to get your opinions on the best mass and strength cycle. im hopin to hit about 225on cycle and end up with like 215 if not more

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    those goal are easily attainable with a proper diet and pct, good luck, bro!

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    I like your first cycle,but I think I'd drop the dbol to 30mgs ed to see how you react,you can always up it if you feel necessary.

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    This dude i know, hes chargin me $1000 canadian, for, 2bottles of Sust300, 2bottles of Deca300, (all containing 10cc) and 300dbols, 10mg....is this a rip or wat man??

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    Im on my first and it's look's like yours.. but I got cyp insted of enth

    Good luck bro !

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    dont run sust once a week...sust has prop in it which is a very short acting ester, needs to be injected AT LEAST once every 3 days

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    what are the size of the deca and test bottles your getting?

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    1st cycle looks good

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