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    LR got what it deserves for selling GHB

    This is JMO and it might p*ss some of you bros off, but I think LR got what was coming to them by selling GHB. Do you realize they were supplying many men with this date rape drug. Just think if you had a sister, cousin, or niece and she was out in a club or bar somewheres and some perverted a**hole slipped some into her drink and then brought her home and raped her while she was unconscious. I know for a fact that I would want to kill this guy. I know a lot of us used them to get access to certain "extras" we needed for our cycle and PCT, but them selling GHB was TOTALLY wrong IMO and they needed to be stopped. What you bros think?

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    i agree...i hate it that they are gone now and it was so easy to order the necessities from them, but they got greedy so now they get the boot....

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    I guess, I like GHB. My buddies and I would take it sometimes to get all ****ed up, and man that **** will lay you the **** out. One night we stayed home and instead of drinking we just took a bunch of that ****. That is when I realized why they called it a date rape drug. I was laying on my friends couch spaced out as ****, I knew what was going on around me, but I wouldn't of be able to stop anything from happening to me. Someone could of punched me in the face and I wouldn't of been able to get up and do a ****ing thing about it. Assholes that are gonna rape girls are going to do it know matter what, their just sick in the head. ****ing a girl why she is terrified, crying, and telling you to stop is not a turn on IMO. And a girl that is passed out and lying there like a dead fish is not a turn on either.

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    um..excuse my ignorance, but who or what is LR???

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    I was under the impression that LR was run by respectable bb's who were really tring to help. But all the articles I read made them sound like junkies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QbHunter
    um..excuse my ignorance, but who or what is LR???

    Scroll down the main steroid questions page and you will find out.

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    they had the best prices i could find. You have know idea how bad this pisses me off

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENraged
    they had the best prices i could find. You have know idea how bad this pisses me off
    Yah the reason their prices were so cheap was because a good bit of thier profit was from the GHB and then the clomid, nolva, clen , t3, and stuff were extra stuff just to make more money. Greedy b*stards.

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    There are better prices out there bro's

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    I completely disagree with you guys with regards to GHB. GHB is one of the safest psychoactive compounds out there, with virtually no systemic or neuro-toxicity. Its only downfall is that its very dose dependent, so that a little beyond a recreational dose causes you to fall asleep. As for calling it a date rape drug, that's just a form of mass hysteria perpetuated by the media to generate enough sensationalization, so that they can make even more money. GHB has a very distinct taste that is extremely salty, its very easily recognizable if put in someones drink. Alcohol, now that is a drug that has been used for decades to rape women! HELL, NOBODY IS YELLING BAN ALCOHOL! People are a bunch of f-ucken hypocrites, they choose to believe whatever suites them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid
    I completely disagree with you guys with regards to GHB. GHB is one of the safest psychoactive compounds out there, with virtually no systemic or neuro-toxicity. Its only downfall is that its very dose dependent, so that a little beyond a recreational dose causes you to fall asleep. As for calling it a date rape drug, that's just a form of mass hysteria perpetuated by the media to generate enough sensationalization, so that they can make even more money. GHB has a very distinct taste that is extremely salty, its very easily recognizable if put in someones drink. Alcohol, now that is a drug that has been used for decades to rape women! HELL, NOBODY IS YELLING BAN ALCOHOL! People are a bunch of f-ucken hypocrites, they choose to believe whatever suites them.
    I agree with you, GHB is mostly harmless. Rohyptnol is a date rape drug, GHB when mixed with alcohol will make you go to sleep if you put a few grams in, but GHBs main uses are not for date rape.

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    Yes, but I look at it in a way that even though it can be harmless and isn't mostly used for date rape, they were STILL supplying guys with it that could use it for this purpose who are sick in the head. I know of three girls where I am from, that have gotten raped by this happening to them. I can bet there was still a lot of guys out there using it for date rape, even though some might claim it is harmless. And I can bet that if it would happen to somebody close to any of you guys, you would have very opposed view towards any date rape drug even though it can be used by some just cause they like doing it with their friends. There are plenty other good companies that have the same products at decent prices. But hey, everybody has their own opinion, and that's just my view.
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    Bump to that Paranoid ! GHB is a good product if used & not abused .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrlfter
    I agree with you, GHB is mostly harmless. Rohyptnol is a date rape drug, GHB when mixed with alcohol will make you go to sleep if you put a few grams in, but GHBs main uses are not for date rape.
    well i totally disagree with this statement....i do G...and alot of it...but it is definatly not harmless....ive seen many people take trips to the hospital from this so called "harmless" drug....i will say this though...im kinda pissed that they got busted.....i never ordered anything from them....but all i heard about them was good things....i was planning on getting all my so called "research liquids" from them for my next cycle...but oh well

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    a lot of things could be used as a date rape drug, so if someone wants to do it, they can find a way. i don't want to list them here to encourage those psychos, but just because a supplier goes away doesn't mean much to a date rapist. there are plenty of 'legal' chemicals to use.

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    I agree, but not because of the moral issues.. because it was stupid. They got greedy, plain and simple. If they had stayed to the clomid/nolva/viagra/etc, non dea scheduled substances, they probably wouldn't have gotten popped. Instead they were selling GABA locally and on the internet, and that's just stupid. They deserved what they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid
    I completely disagree with you guys with regards to GHB. GHB is one of the safest psychoactive compounds out there, with virtually no systemic or neuro-toxicity. Its only downfall is that its very dose dependent, so that a little beyond a recreational dose causes you to fall asleep. As for calling it a date rape drug, that's just a form of mass hysteria perpetuated by the media to generate enough sensationalization, so that they can make even more money. GHB has a very distinct taste that is extremely salty, its very easily recognizable if put in someones drink. Alcohol, now that is a drug that has been used for decades to rape women! HELL, NOBODY IS YELLING BAN ALCOHOL! People are a bunch of f-ucken hypocrites, they choose to believe whatever suites them.
    a-f#ckin-men! well said bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid
    I completely disagree with you guys with regards to GHB. GHB is one of the safest psychoactive compounds out there, with virtually no systemic or neuro-toxicity. Its only downfall is that its very dose dependent, so that a little beyond a recreational dose causes you to fall asleep. As for calling it a date rape drug, that's just a form of mass hysteria perpetuated by the media to generate enough sensationalization, so that they can make even more money. GHB has a very distinct taste that is extremely salty, its very easily recognizable if put in someones drink. Alcohol, now that is a drug that has been used for decades to rape women! HELL, NOBODY IS YELLING BAN ALCOHOL! People are a bunch of f-ucken hypocrites, they choose to believe whatever suites them.
    Bro take 4 or 5 caps of that **** and them tell me you are in control and you can defend yourself. If you say yes than someone sold you fake GHB.

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    LR got greedy - Feds have a hard - on for GHB - LR should have known that

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    I think its ****in rediculas that any of you use this ****...wtf...arent we all here for fitness needs and questions...why in the hell would you use a rec drug and then brag about it????...the bottom line is the **** is illegal and junkies use the ****...not bodybuilders...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdStone
    the bottom line is the **** is illegal and junkies use the ****...not bodybuilders...
    This is exactly the type of ignorant thinking that is all too common in our Western society, and unfortuantely, its fueled by the mindless masses that make up a large part of American culture.

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    i think the ghb is what made them hott! i don't think the feds cared about them till they started selling the hebby gebby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid
    This is exactly the type of ignorant thinking that is all too common in our Western society, and unfortuantely, its fueled by the mindless masses that make up a large part of American culture.
    i dont know where you see the ignorence...this is a F U C K I N G addictive drug that people use to get a high off of...i feel that its common sense to not use the stuff...its one thing to use juice, but when you use some sort of rec drug its ****in senseless IMO...think what you want...maybe your a junkie...i dont know...thats your own life

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    juice is illegal to.
    99,000 things can be used to rape someone, you cannot be responsible fo what people do with your products. GHB is used for working out ect...not simply rape.
    Would you go into a hardware store and get mad about them selling rope because pople can tie eachother up? How about selling ether for starting cold cars which can know someone out faster than any GHB dose?

    Looking at the list of stuff you inject into yourself it hard to see how you can act so high and mighty. I would rather drink GHB that do roids anyday if all i was cancerned about was my health.
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    this isnt a bash on you either paraniod....its a bash on all users

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdStone
    its one thing to use juice, but when you use some sort of rec drug its ****in senseless IMO...think what you want...maybe your a junkie...i dont know...thats your own life
    You just perfectly reinforced my former point, that people only choose to accept and believe in whatever suits them, and them only!

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    I've never juiced nor have i ever used rec drugs. But the high and feeling you guys (and soon me) get from juicing is comparable to the high and feeling a junkie gets from using drugs. I agree that they shouldn't sell ghb but what comes around goes around. I'm sure their intention on selling the drug wasn't so hard up fuks could use it to get laid. my .02. Everyone is judged eventually and has to answer for what they've done in their lives

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    posted by BrokenBricks:
    "juice is illegal to.
    99,000 things can be used to rape someone, you cannot be responsible fo what people do with your products. GHB is used for working out ect...not simply rape.
    Would you go into a hardware store and get mad about them selling rope because pople can tie eachother up? How about selling ether for starting cold cars which can know someone out faster than any GHB dose?

    Looking at the list of stuff you inject into yourself it hard to see how you can act so high and mighty. I would rather drink GHB that do roids anyday if all i was cancerned about was my health."

    please list 10 of these 99,000 date rape drugs that come in liquid form, are odorless, tasteless (when mixed in a drink - but anyone who has used would notice a slight salty taste), and when mixed with alcohol cause the parasympathetic nervous system to slow to a crawl and stop the heart from beating if the amount of ghb is high enough or enough alcohol is in the bloodstream.

    when "knocking someone out with ether" there is physical contact and a struggle, though short lived, does ensue. not the same with ghb/rophenol, it's a sneak attack used by low lifes to prey on unassuming victims. can't compare ghb and ether, please find 10 of these items that fall into the ghb category which can be used in a similar fashion, ie, indiscreetly slipped into a drink. this is why it's dangerous and why it should be illegal.

    ghb has been proven to have few "health benefits", especially not an increase in endogenous hgh or fat burning so that argument is way off, but i don't question it's use as an anasthetic.

    i have seen a few people die from ghb in my life, 1 standing 5 feet in front of me while waiting on line to enter a night club. they even started shocking him while he was on the ground, to no avail. i myself was rushed to the er with a resting heart rate of 24 beats a minute (for over 3 hours), this after taking 2 water bottle cap tops and zero alcohol. show me any steroid that could bring about these instantaneous results and i'm all ears.

    fact is, the stuff is very dangerous and responsible use of ghb is like responsible use of dnp - very gray area. be safe when you use and don't get caught with the stuff.

    best wishes

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc 1
    posted by BrokenBricks:
    "juice is illegal to.
    99,000 things can be used to rape someone, you cannot be responsible fo what people do with your products. GHB is used for working out ect...not simply rape.
    Would you go into a hardware store and get mad about them selling rope because pople can tie eachother up? How about selling ether for starting cold cars which can know someone out faster than any GHB dose?

    Looking at the list of stuff you inject into yourself it hard to see how you can act so high and mighty. I would rather drink GHB that do roids anyday if all i was cancerned about was my health."

    please list 10 of these 99,000 date rape drugs that come in liquid form, are odorless, tasteless (when mixed in a drink - but anyone who has used would notice a slight salty taste), and when mixed with alcohol cause the parasympathetic nervous system to slow to a crawl and stop the heart from beating if the amount of ghb is high enough or enough alcohol is in the bloodstream.

    when "knocking someone out with ether" there is physical contact and a struggle, though short lived, does ensue. not the same with ghb/rophenol, it's a sneak attack used by low lifes to prey on unassuming victims. can't compare ghb and ether, please find 10 of these items that fall into the ghb category which can be used in a similar fashion, ie, indiscreetly slipped into a drink. this is why it's dangerous and why it should be illegal.

    ghb has been proven to have few "health benefits", especially not an increase in endogenous hgh or fat burning so that argument is way off, but i don't question it's use as an anasthetic.

    i have seen a few people die from ghb in my life, 1 standing 5 feet in front of me while waiting on line to enter a night club. they even started shocking him while he was on the ground, to no avail. i myself was rushed to the er with a resting heart rate of 24 beats a minute (for over 3 hours), this after taking 2 water bottle cap tops and zero alcohol. show me any steroid that could bring about these instantaneous results and i'm all ears.

    fact is, the stuff is very dangerous and responsible use of ghb is like responsible use of dnp - very gray area. be safe when you use and don't get caught with the stuff.

    best wishes
    Well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdStone
    I think its ****in rediculas that any of you use this ****...wtf...arent we all here for fitness needs and questions...why in the hell would you use a rec drug and then brag about it????...the bottom line is the **** is illegal and junkies use the ****...not bodybuilders...
    Last time I checked steriods were illegal, lighten up maybe you should try smoking weed.

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    Let me see, the way I understand it, GHB was sold legally at Nutrion Smarts and GNC stores from about 1995 thru 2000. So was ephedra but we all know ephedra got a bad rap because 1 or 2 ephedras a day as the bottle suggest doesnt hurt anyone, but these guys who took 10 to 15 ephedra's a day were the one's having strokes and heart attacks. Now Salvia is also coming under fire and is the next to go.

    Now with all that crap, are you aware that you can legally buy pieces of Peruvian Torch cacti which can be chewed or boiled and essentially the peruvian torch has like 10 times the mescaline of Peyote. You can also order magic mushrooms via mail order from Washington State, eat two mushrooms and you trip like as if you've had 5 hits of acid (LSD). To top ALL of this off it happens to be legal to buy marijuana seeds via mail order, so you can order from Amsterdam guaranteed to sprout marijuana seeds from the 10 most potent marijuana form/types in the world.

    There are also several new and exotic legal psycoactive drug herbs you can buy from the internet, one of which includes Tongkat Ali which if you take this herb more then 3 weeks, it causes your HTPA to continuously increase natural testosterone levels and also tell the liver and kidneys that all this testosterone is desired by the body and not to remove/dump his excess amounts of the hormone into urine, so after 3 months straight of doing tongkat ali, its not unusual to blood test out with testosterone levels of over 2500 where upper level of "normal" testosterone range for 20 year old males is about 1100. If you go on Tongkat long enough period of time (over a month) its a good idea to do Nolva/Clomid/Arimidex to control estrogens.

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    pisses me off cuz our names are on their customer list. i placed an order the night before they got busted. i really blame mike for not being a legitimate business man and dabbling with ghb, a controlled substance. cuz of his FU&^ up we are on the list. i dont think the customers got anything to worry bout cuz we werent getting G, so i think we're cool...im still gettin swole as a mofo.

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    I'm with ColdStone on this one. Even though some people may use it as a recreational drug, it is banned by the DEA and is a controlled substance. Now I know some of yall will say will say so is steroids but we use them. Yes we do, but not to date rape young vulnerable girls that have no clue. I know some people only use it for recreational purposes, but I can gurantee a lot of junkies (mostly in college) use this sh*t all the time and the girls can't do a thing about it. Also, I am not ignorant, I am almost done with my BSN in nursing and we are taught to think "critical". Well I believe that GHB can be VERY dangerous and addictive, in fact I know it can. Now grant it some use it for fun with their buddies, but that sh*t can knock a 250 lb. man off his back if taken wrong, so just think what it can do to a 100 lb. women? Those greedy b*stards should have stuck to the nolva, clomid, etc. and not GHB. Last thing I will say is, like I mentioned before, stop and think for a mintue about someone putting this sh*t in your mother's drink and then brought her home and raped her while she could only lie there and do nothing, even though she knew what was going on.
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    Coldstone, Settle down man, it's cool to get high, I agree you should try smokin da reefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUDY-14
    Coldstone, Settle down man, it's cool to get high, I agree you should try smokin da reefer.
    Im not sure it's "cool to get high" Rudy. Im with coldstone on this as well. Getting high or drunk kills brain cells. I won't point a finger or be judgemental, but I am here to improve my body, not destroy it...well at least not on purpose. We all have the freedom to destroy our brains if we wish, but for those who do, it is not cool...but sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid
    I completely disagree with you guys with regards to GHB. GHB is one of the safest psychoactive compounds out there, with virtually no systemic or neuro-toxicity. Its only downfall is that its very dose dependent, so that a little beyond a recreational dose causes you to fall asleep. As for calling it a date rape drug, that's just a form of mass hysteria perpetuated by the media to generate enough sensationalization, so that they can make even more money. GHB has a very distinct taste that is extremely salty, its very easily recognizable if put in someones drink. Alcohol, now that is a drug that has been used for decades to rape women! HELL, NOBODY IS YELLING BAN ALCOHOL! People are a bunch of f-ucken hypocrites, they choose to believe whatever suites them.
    Uh dude. Where have you been. Alcohol was banned for years in the early 1900s. Prohibition act. So alcohol is bad. Drunk drivers. Stupid people, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    Im not sure it's "cool to get high" Rudy. Im with coldstone on this as well. Getting high or drunk kills brain cells. I won't point a finger or be judgemental, but I am here to improve my body, not destroy it...well at least not on purpose. We all have the freedom to destroy our brains if we wish, but for those who do, it is not cool...but sad.
    ALMOST anyone who says they use GHB for a "sleep aid" is bullsh*t. Just think about it, I would say the ratio of people using it for a sleep aid compared to recreational use when going out or as a date rape drug is 1 to 10, maybe even lower IMO. It IS DANGEROUS stuff, and I don't care what anybody says if they say it harmless. I read MANY times in mags, newspapers, and articles of people going to the hospital and dying from this so called "sleep aid" drug. But everybody has their own opinion. I don't see how anybody can use this sh*t knowing that it kills brain cells after all the hard work we put into forming our ideal physique. I won't get into anymore moral issues about it, as I believe everybody knows that MANY guys out there use this sh*t cause their broke *ss can't get laid, so they have to rape a young girl innocent girl that can't do a D*MN thing about being raped because she can't move any part of her body because some j*ckass put some of this sh*t in her drink and is now raping her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    I'm with ColdStone on this one. Even though some people may use it as a recreational drug, it is banned by the DEA and is a controlled substance. Now I know some of yall will say will say so is steroids but we use them. Yes we do, but not to date rape young vulnerable girls that have no clue. I know some people only use it for recreational purposes, but I can gurantee a lot of junkies (mostly in college) use this sh*t all the time and the girls can't do a thing about it. Also, I am not ignorant, I am almost done with my BSN in nursing and we are taught to think "critical". Well I believe that GHB can be VERY dangerous and addictive, in fact I know it can. Now grant it some use it for fun with their buddies, but that sh*t can knock a 250 lb. man off his back if taken wrong, so just think what it can do to a 100 lb. women? Those greedy b*stards should have stuck to the nolva, clomid, etc. and not GHB. Last thing I will say is, like I mentioned before, stop and think for a mintue about someone putting this sh*t in your mother's drink and then brought her home and raped her while she could only lie there and do nothing, even though she knew what was going on.

    Anything in this world can be considered addictive depending on the person.
    Addictive is the biggest peice of s h i t word I know.

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