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    first cycle... test-enanthate with winny tabs?

    This will be my first cycle, it was suggested to me to take 200mg of enanthate twice a week stacked with winny tabs. Any comments will help.
    Curious about water retention and side effects.
    Thank-you.

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    How long are you running the enanthate ? I would run the winny tabs at 50mg/day for the final 6 weeks of the cycle. Are you aware of the proper use of anti-e's and PCT. If you are, then side effects shouldn't be a problem with this cycle.

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    I personally think a newbie can´t go wrong with 400mg deca , primo or eq along with some 400-500mg of test long acting ester like the one you mentioned or cypionate . And if you want to kickstart things maybe som dball @ 25mg/day. Would be good to know your stats though. And how long you´ve been training.

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    go with just one compound such as test first to see how u respond to it.

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    First cycle? I wouldn't run whinny tabs. Wait till your 2nd or 3rd cycle.
    Learning from personal experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteykauai
    this is the cycle you will run

    1-10 250mgs of test enanthate twice a week, (sun, wed)
    1-15 10mgs of nolvadex everyday (anti-estrogen)
    12-15 clomid PCT
    -300mgs for 1 day
    -100mgs for 10 days
    -50 mgs for 10 days

    That cycle is fine.....but I'd go 12 wks myself,and also run the Nolv @ 20 mgs for pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregkovac
    I personally think a newbie can´t go wrong with 400mg deca, primo or eq along with some 400-500mg of test long acting ester like the one you mentioned or cypionate. And if you want to kickstart things maybe som dball @ 25mg/day. Would be good to know your stats though. And how long you´ve been training.
    TO MUCH!!! A first cycle of test is the way to go!!!!

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    go with what whiteykauai & dabull said. all you need is test bro for your first cycle. Trust me! you will like what you see. But remember, DIET is what makes you grow. I keep a chart of waht i eat everyday to let myself know if i need to eat more. I have links at the bottom of my signitaure. they are helpful when bulking or cutting. Use them. This way i know i am gettting at least 300g of protien & 4000+ calories per day. That is essential towards growing!

    test is the way to go, save the winny tabs for a second cycle! you will be happy you did

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    thanx for the replies can I just save the winny tabs and do them solo later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosa79
    thanx for the replies can I just save the winny tabs and do them solo later?
    Not solo bro,save them for another cycle and stack them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    TO MUCH!!! A first cycle of test is the way to go!!!!
    It´s not too much. I don´t think you should use test by itself, it will be easier to keep the gains if u use test with some deca , primo or eq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregkovac
    It´s not too much. I don´t think you should use test by itself, it will be easier to keep the gains if u use test with some deca, primo or eq.
    Show the board your proff to back up your statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Show the board your proff to back up your statement.
    exactly

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    I´m talking from my own experience. You do as you want to do and i´ll do what works for me. Later.

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    And also i think personal experience is more trustworthy then something you´ve read in a book. You can´t learn to drive by just by reading a book can you? If I´m correct you´ve only got one cykle under your belt. Did your 1st a year ago? So you don´t have much to go on, and call personal experience. I always like to get advice from different people and their point of view. Especially those with personal experience.

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