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    Question Save my relationship!!!

    I need some help with a problem. Basically, I recently came off a cycle of EQ and Winny Inj. Put on 15lbs and got ripped and hard. Plus sex drive through the roof. (I am 29, 6'0, 210lbs). The problem came when my source could not come up with clomid for post cycle. I lost almost everything.
    It has been 6 weeks and I started a new cycle with d-bol and primobolan . The past 4weeks or so, I have had almost nill sex drive. I mean I dont even feel like checking out porn. Furthermore, I dont feel the immediate strength surge on the d-bol. (20-30 mgs/day). I did however think I noticed some thinning of my hair, but I could be paranoid. Anyway...My girlfriend is getting inpatient and I can not figure out why or more importantly how I can get my drive back w/o delving into more drugs. Is this a result of not using clomid??? I have Winstrol inj, will adding this help??? And how can I keep the gains from this current cycle. Lastly, near the end of my EQ cycle, I developed a small area on my deltoid that broke out with acne. No where else!! Just one 5x5 area on my delt that continues to produce nasty whiteheads, and is embarrassing to wear a tank top. HAS anyone else had these problems???Overall, I am pleased with the results of my first cycle, however, I am concerned about my sex drive and also whether it is possible to keep the gains after you finish a cycle. I dont want to keep cycling the rest of my life to stay big and cut....

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    Test is a base of all cycles. That is your problem along with poor planning. You should never start a cycle untill you have all your gear infront of you. But i guess you learn from experience, we all do. I would stop everything, get some clomid & novladex ASAP, and run it like this.

    Day 1: 300mg Clomid & 20mg Novladex
    Days 2-14: 100mg Clomid & 20mg Novladex
    Days 15-28: 50mg Clomid & 20mg Novladex

    After that, take some time off, do some research. Post your proposed cycle on here, let the bro's of AR check it out and fine tune it for you. Then you will be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by codenamecastle
    I need some help with a problem. Basically, I recently came off a cycle of EQ and Winny Inj. Put on 15lbs and got ripped and hard. Plus sex drive through the roof. (I am 29, 6'0, 210lbs). The problem came when my source could not come up with clomid for post cycle. I lost almost everything.
    It has been 6 weeks and I started a new cycle with d-bol and primobolan . The past 4weeks or so, I have had almost nill sex drive. I mean I dont even feel like checking out porn. Furthermore, I dont feel the immediate strength surge on the d-bol. (20-30 mgs/day). I did however think I noticed some thinning of my hair, but I could be paranoid. Anyway...My girlfriend is getting inpatient and I can not figure out why or more importantly how I can get my drive back w/o delving into more drugs. Is this a result of not using clomid??? I have Winstrol inj, will adding this help??? And how can I keep the gains from this current cycle. Lastly, near the end of my EQ cycle, I developed a small area on my deltoid that broke out with acne. No where else!! Just one 5x5 area on my delt that continues to produce nasty whiteheads, and is embarrassing to wear a tank top. HAS anyone else had these problems???Overall, I am pleased with the results of my first cycle, however, I am concerned about my sex drive and also whether it is possible to keep the gains after you finish a cycle. I dont want to keep cycling the rest of my life to stay big and cut....

    hate to say it,and im sorry to hear that bro,this is why you have everything in front of you before you start a cycle....but hey,hind sight is 20/20.....good luck bro.
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    You should never start a cycle without having all the gear you need. You should have waited until you received your clomid. Cant go back now, learn from this and always remember test is the solid base for a cycle.

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    that sounds too bad bro. it won't necessairly help your sex drive per se, but you could pick up some liquid V or liquid cialis from one of the research companies that makes them... i think pnp makes both. That'll help for the time being for your girlfriend. Shoulder acne sucks.

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    i hate to sound like a parrot but in the future you know to wait until EVERYTHING is on hand. this time you had to learn from personal experience. next time try to learn from ours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by codenamecastle
    I need some help with a problem. Basically, I recently came off a cycle of EQ and Winny Inj. Put on 15lbs and got ripped and hard. Plus sex drive through the roof. (I am 29, 6'0, 210lbs). The problem came when my source could not come up with clomid for post cycle. I lost almost everything.
    It has been 6 weeks and I started a new cycle with d-bol and primobolan . The past 4weeks or so, I have had almost nill sex drive. I mean I dont even feel like checking out porn. Furthermore, I dont feel the immediate strength surge on the d-bol. (20-30 mgs/day). I did however think I noticed some thinning of my hair, but I could be paranoid. Anyway...My girlfriend is getting inpatient and I can not figure out why or more importantly how I can get my drive back w/o delving into more drugs. Is this a result of not using clomid??? I have Winstrol inj, will adding this help??? And how can I keep the gains from this current cycle. Lastly, near the end of my EQ cycle, I developed a small area on my deltoid that broke out with acne. No where else!! Just one 5x5 area on my delt that continues to produce nasty whiteheads, and is embarrassing to wear a tank top. HAS anyone else had these problems???Overall, I am pleased with the results of my first cycle, however, I am concerned about my sex drive and also whether it is possible to keep the gains after you finish a cycle. I dont want to keep cycling the rest of my life to stay big and cut....

    Rather than point out the obvious " Don't start until you have everything", I will point out your other major error.

    You have started a second cycle without recovering your hpta. In essence, you are now running one long continuous cycle, with no recovery in between and no test. This is why the love bone doesn't want to work. Further, my guess from your lack of knowledge is that this has to be a first/2nd cycle for you. DO NOT run extended cycles as a beginner/novice until you know how your body reacts and your own natural test prodution can recover properly.

    My advice is to stop the dbol , primo immediately and get your hands on nolva and clomid. Run them as advised above and see if your drive comes back. Lastly do not use any gear until you have read about everything as these cycles show no real knowledge of how these chemicals work. They are not your basic additives and if used improperly as you are using them now, can really **** you up.

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    Do you have clomid this time?

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    Question Point taken...

    Guys thanks for the info, I do realize that I should have had the clomid before starting on my last cycle. I also realize I should have waited longer before starting this new cycle of d-bol and primo. However, when I lost all my gains after the eq/winny, I got suckered back in. Problem now is I am mid-cycle so do I shut it off and revert to the clomid. Thereby wasting the gear I have taken. Or do I continue on, maybe add some Test and then get on the clomid post cycle??
    Regarding the Test as the base of every cycle. I started my cycles wanting to stay away from test b/c I have always heard you lose the gains you get after the cycle is over. Plus, looking at the novice cycles on this board, I thought test should be reserved for more advanced cycles. I am only looking to gain maybe 10-15lbs to 210/215 and be lean. (I have been training since I was 18 naturally, and have peaked out at 200lbs for the past 2/3 years. At 29, I decided for an extra boost) I dont want to continue using roids to maintain my physique. Maybe my ignorance, but on this site EQ, Winny and Primo are all meds that have 3 or 4 stars in the column of keeping gains. Do you all think it is unrealistic to keep gains after a cycle?? I definitely appreciate any insight, this is stuff I didnt learn in med school.

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    You shouldn't have to use gear to maintain forever. That being said, you really should always have test in a cycle, from the first one on. You should probably get off the gear your on now and do a proper PCT regimine now so that you get your sex drive and proper hormone function and production back. Then, after the right amount of time off, if you want, you should do a proper cycle, with all the right stuff on hand.

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    This was said before I personnaly always use a test as the basis for all my cylcles and have never had any complaints about my sex drive. Live & learn i guess. take care bro.

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    thats why you never do your first shot until you have everything your going to need all the way to pct

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