Which One Is Better?

**jkddave** · 02-09-2004, 09:43 AM

What would the better cycle be?

Cycle #1

Week 1-10 Sustanon 250 - 250mg p/week
Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol - 20mg p/day
Week 1-10 Deca - 300mg p/week
Week 1-10 Nolvadex - 10mg p/day
Week 12-14 Clomid - 50mg p/day

OR

Cycle #2

Week 1-10 Test.Cypionate - 300 p/week
Week 1-4 Anadrol 50 - 50mg p/day
Week 5-8 Russian D-Bol - 20mg p/day
Week 1-10 Nolvadex - 10mg p/day
Week 12-14 Clomid - 50mg p/day

What would you change to make it better?

Thanks in advance!

**TheMudMan** · 02-09-2004, 09:49 AM

What are your stats: age, weight, height, training exp, cycle exp?

**jkddave** · 02-09-2004, 09:59 AM

Sorry about that!

I'm 5'11" 195lbs. This would be my first cycle but I have been training seriously for about 3-4 years now.

**TheMudMan** · 02-09-2004, 10:05 AM

I wouldn't suggect drol in a first cycle too harsh.... D-bol is better to use..... I would also use a single estered test like cyp

Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol - 35mg p/day
Week 1-10 Test.Cypionate - 400mg p/week
Week 1-13 Nolvadex - 10mg p/day
Week 1-13 L-dex - .25mg p/day

Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of Cyp

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

**Madmax** · 02-09-2004, 10:09 AM

if your under 20 disregard this advice...dont run ldex into pct, id increase your nolva since it works better for pct than clomid does in certain ways. id also do some research because the cycle you laid out isnt very good, try this bro...MM

d-bol 30mg ed (1-4) - optional
cyp 500mg (1-10)
deca 400mg (1-10)
prop 100mg eod (10-13)

**TheMudMan** · 02-09-2004, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Madmax

if your under 20 disregard this advice...dont run ldex into pct, id increase your nolva since it works better for pct than clomid does in certain ways. id also do some research because the cycle you laid out isnt very good, try this bro...MM

d-bol 30mg ed (1-4) - optional
cyp 500mg (1-10)
deca 400mg (1-10)
prop 100mg eod (10-13)

There are studies that show the use of l-dex helps to recover HPTA functions in PCT........... I will try to find the links

**Madmax** · 02-09-2004, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

There are studies that show the use of l-dex helps to recover HPTA functions in PCT........... I will try to find the links

L-dex will help in upstarting testosterone production...but i told him not to run it into pct because hes already running the nolva and clomid, which is more than enough for his doses...MM