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    test prop or test 250 w/ winnie

    should i take test 250 or lower when im doing my first cycle and with winnie to cut up a little but mainly gain lean mass???

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipper22
    should i take test 250 or lower when im doing my first cycle and with winnie to cut up a little but mainly gain lean mass???
    being your first i would recommend against the prop. too many injections for a newbie IMO... take either cyp or enth.

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    so you would recommend the 250

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    250 mgs of enth or cyp? you could safely run 400-500mgs a week. thats still a safe first cycle IMO...AD

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    which would you recomend=== 250 enth or cyp???

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    personal opinion. enth. although depends on gear quality.

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    If you wanna gain lean body mass, with no water retention, and solid gains then I would run the prop. The only drawback is the ED injections. But some people like injecting.....

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    so w/ the 250 i will gain water weight??

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    that is with good diet and cardio(plus winstrol for 6 weeks)- and my guy is selling me the test 250 or prop for 100 bucks. whats up wit that???

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    100$ a bottle? you will need about 4 bottles to run it at 350-400mg a week for 10 weeks. Why would he only sell you the test e?

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    And if you take liquidex and nolva or just liquidex the bloat should be kept to a minimum in your cycle

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    my cycle is only for 6 weeks and then im gonna pct and what would be a good pct for winny 6 weeks and test 250 6 weeks.

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    you need to run enanthate or cyp longer than 6 weeks, sometimes it takes 5 weeks just to kick in. Run enanthate 10-12 weeks IMO

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    1-10 test en 400/500mg per week
    (8-12 winny 50mg ed, optional)
    1-12 nolva/10mg + ldex/0.25mg ed
    pct with nolva and clomid startin 2 weeks after your last test inj!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGFuryZ
    If you wanna find out if you can handle prop, practice injecting yourself (with nothing in the syringe), and do this ED for a week. If this doesn't bother you, then I'd say go with prop. My reasoning for this is I tried prop for my second cycle, and found I love the ED injects. Instead of dreading the single injection all week, I'd simply do it because I know if I didn't, I wouldn't grow. Now all my cycles have at least ED injects of prop & fina...
    I'm the same way. If I'm not sticking myself all the time, I feel like I'm not doing anything .

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    I'm a creature of habit as well, I love to stick myself, which strange b/c up until a year ago I was terrified of needles. WTF

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    I agree with Consistency. I would run cyp for ur first cycle, I think u will bloat less than enethanate, u could safely run 400mgs a week...

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