First time user looking for strength gains ONLY.

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:20 PM

ive been reading and reading, day after day. Soon to come is my weightlifting meet, ive been lifting for a good 6 years now and my benchpress has peaked for the past few months.my diet is all in tact, sleep, training etc.

i did whats needed to be done and yet its still at a peak.just last week i purchased a 20 ml bottle of QV winny off a friend.i might of made a mistake or i might of not.i have been researching winstrol and i cant find ANYTHING about it beeing takin alone.im guessing its very uncommon to be taken alone.

I am a couple pounds over in my weight class and needed to drop only a few pounds to stay in, the only thing i was looking to gain from ONLY taking winstrol was a little bit of a strength gain without the cost of gaining weight.whatever i do i cant gain too much weight or else i would of looked into more potent substances like test or dbol .

Has anybody heard of winstrol only cycles?yesterday was my first injection and i will be doing 50mg EOD, 3 times a week.

**symatech** · 02-15-2004, 07:23 PM

ditch the winstrol and go with anavar .

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:25 PM

money is a factor.

**bigdog81** · 02-15-2004, 07:25 PM

stop it..
dont run it by itself..
it makes you brittle.
if you are wanting to lose weight..diet hard...cardio. and a sauna suit is in order.
you are wasting your time w/ this stuff alone.
all cycles should contain some kind of test.
how much did you pay?

**LilVito469** · 02-15-2004, 07:25 PM

is it possible to take any type of AS and loose weight? i think im confused...

**tmeoe** · 02-15-2004, 07:25 PM

Just curious, but if you already injected yesterday whats the point of asking these questions now.

I'd stop your cycle right now if i were you. There are more effective and safer ways of losing some weight. As a rule of thumb test should be the base of any cycle. I'm pretty sure you won't be happy with the results of your cycle.

This is another good example of people jumping into something head first when the water is only a foot deep. At least you just started and hopefully you quit before you hurt yourself.

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:28 PM

guys, im not looking to lose fat, im not looking to "get ripped to shreds", that wasnt my intention when i bought this stuff

**Da Bull** · 02-15-2004, 07:28 PM

Winny only cycles have been done...it's just not advised.....First off the winny needs to be run ed.It has a short half life.I'd look into getting some prop maybe and more winny.

**Consistency** · 02-15-2004, 07:29 PM

yeah and especially injecting 50mg only 3 times a week. That wont do much of anything. Sorry bro. AAS arent some miracle drug that will make you lose weight and get stronger at the same time.

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:29 PM

so i should do 25 mg ED?thats alot of injections and soreness

**symatech** · 02-15-2004, 07:30 PM

eat it. and do 50

**bigdog81** · 02-15-2004, 07:31 PM

winny is not a strength drug really
go w/ anavar or something similiar.
how much weight are you allowed to gain?

**Da Bull** · 02-15-2004, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

so i should do 25 mg ED?thats alot of injections and soreness

50 mgs ed and winny isn't known for strength gains,it's more of aq muscle hardener.

**Da Bull** · 02-15-2004, 07:32 PM

Sh!t..we're all typing at once........

**Consistency** · 02-15-2004, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

so i should do 25 mg ED?thats alot of injections and soreness

just drink it

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:37 PM

pull it out with a 22 guage we'll say and just drink it straight up?im reading i should chase it down with grapefruit juice.

**symatech** · 02-15-2004, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

pull it out with a 22 guage we'll say and just drink it straight up?im reading i should chase it down with grapefruit juice.

make sure to take the pin off.....

**itsallmental** · 02-15-2004, 07:41 PM

well, honestly i would do it naturally, but thats what ive been saying for years.with a little push i could make it to state in my weight class.i made the mistake of just taking a couple shots of sust a little while ago and my bench has been fluctuating ever since, never held steady.

**powerlifter** · 02-15-2004, 08:37 PM

ANAVAR - strength up the whazoo !!!

**spywizard** · 02-15-2004, 08:44 PM

Beat me to it..........

Buy the var as an oral.. or powder... about $60 add eveclear... you are done..

I have had alot of cramping with the winny.........

Originally Posted by symatech

ditch the winstrol and go with anavar.