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    Question Help Me With This Cycle

    I'm getting ready for my first cycle. It consists of.
    1-10 decca durabolin 200mg/wk
    1-4 Dbol (russian) 25mg ED
    4-8 Sust 250mg/wk

    I was told to use a anti estrogen can some one let me know what to use and when to use it? Also can I put the sus and the decca in the same needle? I'm brand new at this I've been obsorbing as much information as possible, but I need to know what you guys know out there please help. I'm not trying to get real huge....I'm a football player and need to gain weight but also stay fast...But who doesn't wanna look big for the SUMMER.....haha. Any thoughts on Combluterol..after the cycle is over to get cutter? Let me know everything you guys have I NEED HELP.

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    Wrong way to run a cycle. Do a little research and come back bro.

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    run the sust for 10 weeks, and make sure it out runs the deca (ie if you do sust 10 weeks, do deca 8 weeks) and yes you need anti e's, and no there are not anti e's to prevent deca gyno
    it doesnt seem like your ready to cycle judging by what you posted above,
    read the educational forum

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    its just one cycle tho can you really grow bitch tits from that?

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    All depends on how your body will react to it. Yes, I do know someone that did get bitch tits on there first cycle. Just remember, everyone is different.

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    it doesnt matter if its your 1st or 3rd cycle you are still prone to test conversion to estrogen. if your running sust at 250mg/wk then you probably dont have to worry about gyno, but like i said, i would up the test and read some of the forums to make a better cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedtraining
    its just one cycle tho can you really grow bitch tits from that?
    yes you can!! and check your pm

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    also, if your running a test with deca on your first cycle, your not going to have a clue of what is causing what sides, and what is working for you, try just test for first cycle and throw dbol or prop in there

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    click on the link on Consistency's name where it says "everything you need to know about a first cycle"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJK015
    click on the link on Consistency's name where it says "everything you need to know about a first cycle"
    Yeah that too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    yes you can!! and check your pm
    whats is PM? I'm a little slow when it comes to abrivations or what ever.

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    bro, if this is your first cycle do a single ester test like enathante or cyponiate and run it with d-bol, save the deca and sus you dont have enough of it anyway 4weeks at 250mg of sus you can expect very poor results

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    I was told decca is the saffest steroid vs side effects....When you say test you are talking about the Dbol and the sust right? what can i throw in to stop any possibility of conversion....

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    Private message, top right of your screen

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJK015
    run the sust for 10 weeks, and make sure it out runs the deca (ie if you do sust 10 weeks, do deca 8 weeks) and yes you need anti e's, and no there are not anti e's to prevent deca gyno
    it doesnt seem like your ready to cycle judging by what you posted above,
    read the educational forum
    not entirley true... bromo controls deca gyno from what i hear.

    If i were you speed i would just stick to the sust for the first time.. or better yet something like test cyp or enant. That way if u get any sides as PJ pointed out you will know what it is from.. and not be wondering if it were the deca or test giving you them...

    Anti's are a must. nolva works well and some use ldex or arimidex
    nolva and clomid pct...

    stats would be nice to if you want accurate help from the bros on the board....

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    Oh by the way there are anti-es for deca and its called bromo. Your pm is your private message and its at the top of the screen. You most likely will not need bromo for a first cycle but some anti-es are a good thing to have such as arimidex , liquidex, nolvadex , proviron

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedtraining
    whats is PM? I'm a little slow when it comes to abrivations or what ever.
    PM is private message, top right of the page click on it

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    Magicstick beat me too it.

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    Thanks guys iam 6'2 230 got hurt this year, lost weight down to like 220 was benching 350, squat 460, deadlift 550, Powerclean 235. 40 yrd dash 4.55

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    Anyone use pharmaeurope to get there gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedtraining
    Anyone use pharmaeurope to get there gear?
    if your thinking bout getting stuff online i would definitly avoid anything that starts with pharm (im sure there are some legit online ones but generally not a good diea... think bout who else can find an online one)....you're best bet is to try to find a domestic, but dont think about asking for one because you shall not receive (plus it's against the rules)

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicstick2003
    if your thinking bout getting stuff online i would definitly avoid anything that starts with pharm (im sure there are some legit online ones but generally not a good diea... think bout who else can find an online one)....you're best bet is to try to find a domestic, but dont think about asking for one because you shall not receive (plus it's against the rules)
    What is agaist the rules explain further please.

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    Asking for sources. We dont want the ones still running getting busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRE
    Asking for sources. We dont want the ones still running getting busted.
    got you

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