First Cycle.....

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02-18-2004, 10:13 PM
PeteEPete

First Cycle.....

1st cycle (starting soon)

week 1-10...deca qv 300mg
week 1-12...test en 400mg
week 1-16...nolva 10mg ED
week 13-16..clomid 50mg ED (300mg kick)
(100mg ED 1-11)
(50mg ED 12-21)

I've read a lot of differing opinions about deca only vs stacked for us newbs. I know the arguments but cant find the defining answer to my question.... Shoud I stack or not for first cycle?

I'll base most of my decision from response to this thread? :yellowcon
02-18-2004, 10:22 PM
spywizard

Depends.. need to know alot more about you...

and most will recommend a test only for a 1st cycle.. but if you are set on it..

you look pretty good..

but don't ever do just a deca only cycle..

Peace
02-18-2004, 10:23 PM
Bartleby

I like it, looks like you did your research and the doses are low...id say go with the deca/test...good luck...
02-18-2004, 11:43 PM
asiancuts

most would say test only. i did, but i don't necessarily think you have to. ive heard arguements that its actually not bad to do a deca/test for a first. anyway, looks like you've done your homework, let us know how it turns out and good luck!
02-19-2004, 12:29 AM
Da Bull

Ron has a sticky above called "Newbies this is for you" read it.It descibes you cycle in detail.
02-19-2004, 01:18 AM
Kdog@usi

bro PCT should start two weeks after the last test injection. I say test E 1-12 only. then PCT starts week 15.
02-19-2004, 09:16 PM
Da Bull

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kdog@usi

bro PCT should start two weeks after the last test injection. I say test E 1-12 only. then PCT starts week 15.

You mean wk 14.
02-19-2004, 09:19 PM
Kdog@usi

well 14 days after the last shot right? I mean if he shoots on thursday of week 12 he doesn't want to start PCT on mon of week 14. correct me if I'm wrong bull.
02-19-2004, 09:43 PM
JohnnyB

Since test and deca can have different ways of causing gyno. I'd suggest test first then add the deca on the next 1.

JohnnyB
02-20-2004, 05:31 AM
juicy_brucy

Hey, if oyou can do both deca and the test, you're a lucy person. My first cycle was oral deca and sustanon 250. gained 35 pounds.
02-20-2004, 10:55 AM
PeteEPete

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Since test and deca can have different ways of causing gyno. I'd suggest test first then add the deca on the next 1.

JohnnyB

190 lbs., age 36, 5'8" excellent frame to start with... been hitting waits hard for about 3 months...diet is in check.

With the relatively low dosages... and nolva... shouldnt that minimize the gyno. Serious question... if my body cant handle it, how would i know? What negative effects would the combo have, water retention??

One more for ya... can i mix the Deca and Test E in the same syringe for one injection?