1st Cycle Please Critique

Wk 1-11 400 mg Deca
Wk 1-13 500 mg Sust
wk 9-13 200 mg Cyp
Wk 14 600 mg Cyp
Wk 12-16 50mg Winny Tab ed
Pct with Nolv. and Clomid

I am doing 14 weeks of injection. I would have liked to finish on wk 14 with the sust but I ran out. Since on week 9-13 I am taking a total of 700 mg of Test should I cut down to 600mg or 400mg of Cyp on week 14.
I am shooting the sust twice a week.
Let me know what you think.
I am on week 6 and gained 8.5 pounds
My strength gains are through the roof, my bench alone went up 25lbs so far.

Training hard core for over 2 years straight
22 years old
5'7" 171lbs ( currently )
Bench - 330lbs

Why are you running sust and cyp. I would pick one kind of test and run it all the way thru. You might as well run the deca to week 13 as well so your body ends the test, deca, and winny all at the same time.

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Originally Posted by gcode610

Wk 1-11 400 mg Deca
Wk 1-13 500 mg Sust
wk 9-13 200 mg Cyp
Wk 14 600 mg Cyp
Wk 12-16 50mg Winny Tab ed
Pct with Nolv. and Clomid

I am doing 14 weeks of injection. I would have liked to finish on wk 14 with the sust but I ran out. Since on week 9-13 I am taking a total of 700 mg of Test should I cut down to 600mg or 400mg of Cyp on week 14.
I am shooting the sust twice a week.
Let me know what you think.
I am on week 6 and gained 8.5 pounds
My strength gains are through the roof, my bench alone went up 25lbs so far.

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Bro this is way too much gear for a first cycle. I also wouldn't run deca for more than 8 weeks your first time using it as it is the hardest to recover from and you should get to know the stuff before you marry it. However, if you have your heart set on using it, there is no need to run more than 200mg a week in a first cycle stack.

I would run only the sust for 12 weeks, 500 mgs. Like I said, Deca at 200mgs. I always run the deca shorter than the test because I want to make sure it's completely out of my system for pct.

Yeah I didnt even think about that this is your first cycle, cut it down and run no more then 2 drugs at a time.

I would drop the sust and run the cyp @ 500mg/wk
like this
1-12 cyp @ 500/wk
1-10 deca @ 300/wk

I am not a fan of deca for a 1st cycle but if I wasa gonna run it this is the wat I would do it

Well, in my opinion, most of the above are correct. It's to much gear and no need to run sust and cyp. Seems like a pyramid cycle also. No need for that either. Point that should be kept in mind is that you need to keep constant blood levels through, reach a saturation peak and stay there for better gains and less side affects. I see youre trying to harden the gains by running the winny past the test. Not a bad idea. This is a more experienced cycle not meant for a novice. I understand you are getting gains but to a cost on your system. Right now I dont think you have enough recptors to handle this much gear.

Post up your PCT and lets see what you are going to do for post therapy after the winny ends.

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Originally Posted by toolman

Bro this is way too much gear for a first cycle. I also wouldn't run deca for more than 8 weeks your first time using it as it is the hardest to recover from and you should get to know the stuff before you marry it. However, if you have your heart set on using it, there is no need to run more than 200mg a week in a first cycle stack.

I would run only the sust for 12 weeks, 500 mgs. Like I said, Deca at 200mgs. I always run the deca shorter than the test because I want to make sure it's completely out of my system for pct.

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This is my first real cycle. About a year ago I ran test enthanate for 10 weeks . I had no idea what i was doing . I used a total of 18 cc. which comes out to about 500mgs a week.
I also ran 3 months of Tbomb about 4 months ago.
I am not saying I am a gear expert but this should help.
What do you think now.

Post up your PCT and lets see what you are going to do for post therapy after the winny ends.[/QUOTE]

1 day after winny 300mgs Clomid 20 mg Nolv.
Day 2-11 100 mgs clomid 20 mgs nolv
Day 12-21 50 mgs clomid 20 mg nolv

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Originally Posted by toolman

Bro this is way too much gear for a first cycle.

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I thinks that too !

You should done a more simple one !

PCT looks good. If this is your 3rd cycle and you have already run 500 test then add the winny on the backend. I would run

1-13 deca 300-400
1-14 Test cyp 500
11-16 winny 50mg ed
PCT one day after winny
Anti-e all the way thru pct.

That looks good to me. Exactly what I would have suggested with the nolva added.

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Originally Posted by gcode610

Post up your PCT and lets see what you are going to do for post therapy after the winny ends.

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1 day after winny 300mgs Clomid 20 mg Nolv.
Day 2-11 100 mgs clomid 20 mgs nolv
Day 12-21 50 mgs clomid 20 mg nolv[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by TRE

PCT looks good. If this is your 3rd cycle and you have already run 500 test then add the winny on the backend. I would run

1-13 deca 300-400
1-14 Test cyp 500
11-16 winny 50mg ed
PCT one day after winny
Anti-e all the way thru pct.

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I only have enough deca to last 12 weeks
I am already on week 6 and am taking the sust.
How about this, I can make a last min change
wk 1-12 deca 300-400 mgs
wk 1-14 500 mgs of sust.
wk 12-16 50mgs winny ed
Pct day after winny

That should work out just fine bro are you getting any results yet.

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Originally Posted by TRE

That should work out just fine bro are you getting any results yet.

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I am getting monster results ( at least for me )
I gained a solid 9lbs in 6 weeks
My bench increased 25 lbs
If I stay on this path all the way throuth 14 weeks I will be very satisfied