I recently read a thread saying 25g with propinate went smooth as butter for him, That s*** is the truth. Though it was slow as hell, I had to push as hard as I could to get that f***in plunger to move. I cut it with sterile oil and it's not too sore at the moment. No pain during the injection, but two seconds after I pulled it out the pain kicked in. I don't know if it's all mental, being that I started my cycle today, but I almost want to say I think the var may have kicked-in already. I felt a normal about of strength at the gym today, but it turned out that I lost 10 lbs in the last 4 days of eating s*** and my 16 hour round-trip to Mexico. Generally when my diet sucks for a few days the next time I lift my strength is nothing like it was. So I don't know if it's all in my head or what, but I'm amp'd up about this cycle.