to mush hcg?

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-12-2004, 03:35 PM

i finished my 10 week cycle of test enan at 500mg ew with 35mg dbol ed for 4 weeks at week10 i took 5000iu of hcg and tomorow i will take another 5000iu and 5000iu for the next week and i will star my clomid therapy is this too mush hcg?

**Tock** · 02-12-2004, 03:45 PM

1000 iu of HCG every day for 10 days is what my doc prescribes for me. Works like a charm.
--Tock

**Phillyboy1** · 02-12-2004, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy

i finished my 10 week cycle of test enan at 500mg ew with 35mg dbol ed for 4 weeks at week10 i took 5000iu of hcg and tomorow i will take another 5000iu and 5000iu for the next week and i will star my clomid therapy is this too mush hcg?

yeah thats too much, you may have to much test in your body and it will convert to estro. when are you starting your clomid? dont run the HCG and Clomid at the same time

**johnsomebody** · 02-12-2004, 06:15 PM

If you mean 5000iu in one shot I'd definitely say that's too much -I think Tock is way more in line on the dose. I prefer 500iu/day myself.

**toolman** · 02-12-2004, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy

i finished my 10 week cycle of test enan at 500mg ew with 35mg dbol ed for 4 weeks at week10 i took 5000iu of hcg and tomorow i will take another 5000iu and 5000iu for the next week and i will star my clomid therapy is this too mush hcg?

Militia this is way too much. Personally, I don't like HCG for PCT as it can interfere with the clomid.

For future cycles, do what I did, and alot of bro's do now. Shoot 500 iu 2x a week while on cycle. THat way the boys don't shrink and crawl north. So when your at the end of the cycle, and wait out the test esters prior to clomid, recovery is much easier because you prevented tha atrophy from occurring.

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-13-2004, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by toolman

Militia this is way too much. Personally, I don't like HCG for PCT as it can interfere with the clomid.

For future cycles, do what I did, and alot of bro's do now. Shoot 500 iu 2x a week while on cycle. THat way the boys don't shrink and crawl north. So when your at the end of the cycle, and wait out the test esters prior to clomid, recovery is much easier because you prevented tha atrophy from occurring.

i will definitly not take hcg with clomid i will run clomid after the hcg and for the estrogen i am taking 20mg nolvadex and 75mg proviron plus i am not prone to gyno

**johnsomebody** · 02-13-2004, 04:41 PM

In my case I'm running it 500iu/2X/week AND I plan to run it for a few days after the last test shot and before starting the Clomid. From everything I've read you need to end HCG a few days before you start Clomid to make sure your test level has fallen to a low enough level.

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-14-2004, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by johnsomebody

In my case I'm running it 500iu/2X/week AND I plan to run it for a few days after the last test shot and before starting the Clomid. From everything I've read you need to end HCG a few days before you start Clomid to make sure your test level has fallen to a low enough level.

last hcg injection will be on saturday then wednesday i will start my clomid therapy
1st 3 days 300mg ed then 100mg for 10 days then 50 mg for 20 days

**toolman** · 02-14-2004, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy

last hcg injection will be on saturday then wednesday i will start my clomid therapy
1st 3 days 300mg ed then 100mg for 10 days then 50 mg for 20 days

Are you using it sub-Q or IM Militia?

**johnsomebody** · 02-14-2004, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy

last hcg injection will be on saturday then wednesday i will start my clomid therapy
1st 3 days 300mg ed then 100mg for 10 days then 50 mg for 20 days

Yup, that's how I do it.

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-15-2004, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by toolman

Are you using it sub-Q or IM Militia?

i didnt understand your question but if u mean what kind of hcg well i am using pregnyl from organon

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-15-2004, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by toolman

Are you using it sub-Q or IM Militia?

i didnt understand your question but if u mean what kind of hcg well i am using pregnyl from organon

**johnsomebody** · 02-22-2004, 03:24 PM

Sub-Q means subcutaneous, injecting just under the skin maybe 1/4" with a slin pin. IM means intra muscular, injecting deeper and into the muscle instead, like with gear.

**MilitiaGuy** · 02-23-2004, 02:45 PM

oh ok i am injecting IM in my butt cock

**Phillyboy1** · 02-23-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy

oh ok i am injecting IM in my butt cock

i did sub Q shots in the stomach, made it painless and super easy

**toolman** · 02-23-2004, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by jcstomper

i did sub Q shots in the stomach, made it painless and super easy

Ditto. Used to shoot it IM but enough guys on here talked me into sub q and I noticed no change in effect and one freed up muscle to shoot with something else.

**johnsomebody** · 02-24-2004, 01:29 PM

Yeah, I swab off first with alchohol and just grab a piece of fat on either side of my belly button and inject into that, maybe 1/4" into the skin. I've read ideally you should go in at about a 45 degree angle.

**Demon Deacon** · 02-24-2004, 03:42 PM

does anyone have a site that shows you how to inject sub-q. I have no idea how to and i need to see pictures or diagrams of the appropriate way. I am scared of new things involving needles.

**toolman** · 02-24-2004, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Demon Deacon

does anyone have a site that shows you how to inject sub-q. I have no idea how to and i need to see pictures or diagrams of the appropriate way. I am scared of new things involving needles.

Its real easy. Just take a big pinch of skin and fat a couple of inches to either side of your belly button. Stick the needle in at a 45 degree angle no more than a half inch or so. It is completely painless. The only thing you want to make sure is you do not go too far to puncture any muscle. I tighten my stomach muscles and feel how far away they are from the needle and all I have pinched is skin and fat.. It's very easy.