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    Cycle question...nolvadex?

    Week 1-8 - 250mg. sust.
    Week 1-8 - 50mg. anadrol
    Week 2-6 - 500mg.sust
    Week 2-6 - 100mg anadrol
    Week 4-10- 300 mg Winn V
    Week 10-12 50 mg Clomin Every day

    Good Cycle? or do i need to run nolvadex with it also? also is it good to start the winn v in the middle of the cycle or should i start it at the beginning?

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    8 weeks of drol...bad bad idea IMO...cut it to 4 or 5 at the most....and 100mg weeks 2-6...whats your cycle experience????

    Dont taper doses up and down...

    YES you need anti e's....both nolva and probly some l-dex...

    also pct is done 300/100/50 for three weeks at the min...

    You are NOT ready for a cycle...do some more research and do it right...USE THE CRAPPIN SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!

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    i have only done one cycle of 8 wks 250 mg. sust.....what do u recomend i do with 14 amps of sust....30 anadrols and 20 ml 100mg winnv

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    1) you dont have enough sust...it needs to be shot eod or e3d...get 6 more at least and run it @ 500mg ew...

    2) drol is way to high week 2-6...keeps doses the same and run it 4 weeks...

    3) run ATLEAST some nolva through...

    4) start clomid 2 weeks after your last test injection...

    here ill just do it for you

    wk- 1-10 500mg sust ew
    wk-1-14 50mg drol ed
    Nolva 10-20mg ed
    (and l-dex or arimidex .25mg ed)
    wk-12-15 clomid and nolva pct
    300/100/50

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    cut the fukkin winny too for your 2nd cycle...you dont need it...JMO

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    y don't i need the winny? that's what i worked hardest to get and i've been wanting to get cut 4ever

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    save it for a cycle with short esters...you could use it with some prop...or even some enth if you had l-dex to keep water off....sust/drol will bloat the hell out of you...

    also its only your sencond cycle, and im getting the hint that you dont know much....winny needs to be ran with liver supps, it also causes hair loss and to some it can dry out the joint sos bad that it hurts...save it for a later cycle when you have more knowledge and experience....sust and drol or ok for now....i never run more than 2 componds at one time and wont for a while...youll grow trust me

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    ok one more questoin....what if i were to cut the anadrol then would it still be bad to run the V?

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    what is I-dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky1214
    ok one more questoin....what if i were to cut the anadrol then would it still be bad to run the V?
    i would just use one or the other...unless you are already huge i would use the drol and bulk for now and save the winny for a cutting cycle...your also gonna need liver protectants on drol (milk thistle, tylers....)...

    L-dex is an anti-e that keeps excess water bloat off of you during the cycle...its also and estrogen binder, but not an inhibitor so it needs to be ran with nolva...(i hope i didnt get that backwards )

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    awesome thanx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky1214
    awesome thanx!
    no prob...any other q's...make sure you get it right before you start...

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    do u have any suggestiions on where i could find L-dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky1214
    do u have any suggestiions on where i could find L-dex?
    shoot me a pm

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    wait i can get arimidex is it the same as l-dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky1214
    wait i can get arimidex is it the same as l-dex?
    yes its the same

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    and when u say wk12-15 clomid an nolva pct 300/100/50 what does pct mean ... i don't get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky1214
    and when u say wk12-15 clomid an nolva pct 300/100/50 what does pct mean ... i don't get it?
    300mg for the first day
    100mg for the next 10 days
    50mg for the next ten days
    =21 days or three weeks

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    pct is- post cycle treatment. i run l-dex, nolva, and clomid now just to be safe in the past i had no way to aquire anti-E's and i was lazy. good thing im not proned to gyno, it's different with everyone. at one point i was running 1500mgs of test per week with not and itch or feeling of soreness in my nipples. lucky i guess

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