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    I'm in week 6, but what do you think....

    Weeks 1-4 A50's 50mg/day
    weeks 5-8 Dbols 50mg/day
    weeks 9-12 Winny tabs 50mg/day
    weeks 1-12 1250mg test. Enanthate (split in 2 shots)/ week
    weeks 5-12 500iu (twice a week) of HCG
    weeks 3-10 100mg/day Fina. homemade
    Nolva Starting last week (week 5) for my nips
    18iu of Humalog Insulin (5iu pre and 13 post lift) everyday of lifting

    4500 cals
    200 protien
    1000 carbs

    flaxseed
    clomid post

    So far I have gained about 20 pounds, 15 of good muscle and water, about 5 pounds of fat.

    My elbows are killing me from the A50's (thank gosh I'm off that now)!!!!

    What do you all think???

    Please, NO FLAMES... I just might cry...:-(

    J/K

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    ok, but here the flames come anyway... no disrespect.

    12 weeks of 17aa roids!!!!!!???!!

    that cant be serious... if you're in week 6, stop the dbol and winny now! please, for your livers' sake.

    also, if you're running liver toxic AS for such long periods, i would be worried about your level of expertise while using insulin . that sh*t can kill you man, be careful as hell.

    anyway, drop the winny and dbol right away... you're only hurting yourself running all those 17aa's...

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    Ya that's alot of orals bro...not wise!...I think that cycle will cause more harm than good. If your not already i'd start taking some milk thistle. My liver is swelling just reading that cycle...

    Quote Originally Posted by monstercojones
    ok, but here the flames come anyway... no disrespect.

    12 weeks of 17aa roids!!!!!!???!!

    that cant be serious... if you're in week 6, stop the dbol and winny now! please, for your livers' sake.

    also, if you're running liver toxic AS for such long periods, i would be worried about your level of expertise while using insulin . that sh*t can kill you man, be careful as hell.

    anyway, drop the winny and dbol right away... you're only hurting yourself running all those 17aa's...

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    I am only taking one oral at a time.... first 4 weeks middle 4 and last 4...

    You think I should just get rid of the middle 4 of dbol ?

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    You are not taking then 4 weeks at a time, you are taking 12 weeks in a row of 17aa orals. You should drop the dbol and the winny, your liver will be shot after that cycle.

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    i'd get rid of those orals too...it seems like a **** load of water retention....are your elbows sore in the joints?? If so I love deca for that..but it seems too late

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecoachman
    I am only taking one oral at a time.... first 4 weeks middle 4 and last 4...

    You think I should just get rid of the middle 4 of dbol?
    no, you have to cut out the dbol and the winstrol . there really isnt any option with this. its unhealthy the way you have your cycle laid out. people dont die from AS use unless they do dumb sh*t like this to make responsible users look bad...

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    Bro - let your liver take a break - the Bros are right - too much 17aa's 12 weeks is too long

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    Hell your a braver man than I, too many orals, owch!!!!

    When is your liver going to get chance to recover?
    Last edited by Bigun; 02-25-2004 at 11:41 AM.

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    hope your liver remains in your body for this one bro.... id get myself on an organ donor list for when it falls out though

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    agreed bro, Re-consider the use of liver toxic AAS...I mean d's drols, and winny, hope u have a backup liver donor handy...

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    **** I get in a panic over any stomach cramp or pain I get doing orals, I would freak on 3 consecutive months

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    thanks

    Take it easy....
    I'm only in week 6....
    I dopped all orals after the first reply.

    My joints do hurt but nothing wrong w/ cramping or anything like that. My pee is still clear most of the time.

    Anyways, glad to see a couple of you guys can still give some advice w/ out all the negative sh"t that some of you guys like to give.

    thanks

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    1000 grams of carbs is pretty darn high for 6 weeks out. Was that a typo?

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    the fina should be run for eight weeks by the way. Glad you dropped the orals.

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    Also, be careful with the insulin or you'll be using it for a life time instaid of a cycle.

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