Thread: Novice Cycle Advice Please
02-26-2004, 05:04 PM #1
Novice Cycle Advice Please
Ok, so I had done all my research regarding my first cycle, and had decided on doing a 10-week sustanon run. After some additional research and advice from the forum, I have changed my mind. I am now going to try a 10-week testosterone enanthate cycle and jumpstart it with test propionate . This seems more efficient. Hereís what I have so far:
Weeks 1-4 --> propionate 100 mg eod
Weeks 1-10 --> enanthate 500mg/week
PCT: standard 300/100/50 clomid cycle
(starting 2 weeks after last enanthate injection)
Iíve got a few questions:
--> Is 4 weeks too long? Since enanthate has a two-week half life, wonít my testosterone levels spike from 2-4 weeks? And donít I want stable testosterone levels? Should I do 2 weeks prop instead so that the enanthate is just beginning as the prop is ending, or is that cutting it too close?
--> Also, for s first cycle, do I need to use some anti-estrogens throughout the cycle as well as PCT? If so, should I use anti-aromatics like nolvadex and/or clomid, or estrogen-receptor blockers like arimidex and/or liquidex?
--> And lastly, is 10 weeks a bit two short to get the most out of my first cycle? I want to play it safe, but would a 12 week cycle still be much better?
02-26-2004, 05:10 PM #2
1) 4 weeks is fine with Prop, just because it's half life is 4 weeks does not mean you will feel it's full effects at week 2.
2) You have your anti-estrogens and anti-aromatases backwards. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, arimedex is an anti-aromatase.
You will certainly need Nolvadex for PCT. I would say from the day of your last shot, till the day of your last dose of clomid at 20mg.
Also during cycle I would run 10mg ed of Nolva to be safe. You may not need it at all, but I say it so you can be sure.
3) 10 weeks is fine. If you wanted to go longer then lower your dosage a bit. 400mg for 12 weeks is fine.
Get your diet and sleep in order and you'll grow. Good luck.
02-26-2004, 05:13 PM #3
how many times do we need to post the same **** questions?
02-26-2004, 05:40 PM #4
This wasn't so bad.
02-26-2004, 05:43 PM #5Originally Posted by DocHoliday
02-26-2004, 05:45 PM #6
02-26-2004, 05:49 PM #7
ahhhh, I see
I did that too a few times
02-26-2004, 06:31 PM #8
Yo...guys...lighten up a bit. I didn't purposely post it twice. My comp kinda froze up when i posted it the first time, and I didn't think it was working. So i clicked the submit button again. Turns out it posted twice. Just a mistake. Sorry. Everyone is so quick to get nasty...
02-27-2004, 06:29 AM #9
it's all gravy,
Did you get your Q's answered?
03-01-2004, 04:48 PM #10
yes...questions answered. Thanks
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