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    Novice Cycle Advice Please

    Hey guys,

    Ok, so I had done all my research regarding my first cycle, and had decided on doing a 10-week sustanon run. After some additional research and advice from the forum, I have changed my mind. I am now going to try a 10-week testosterone enanthate cycle and jumpstart it with test propionate . This seems more efficient. Hereís what I have so far:

    Weeks 1-4 --> propionate 100 mg eod
    Weeks 1-10 --> enanthate 500mg/week

    PCT: standard 300/100/50 clomid cycle
    (starting 2 weeks after last enanthate injection)

    Iíve got a few questions:

    --> Is 4 weeks too long? Since enanthate has a two-week half life, wonít my testosterone levels spike from 2-4 weeks? And donít I want stable testosterone levels? Should I do 2 weeks prop instead so that the enanthate is just beginning as the prop is ending, or is that cutting it too close?

    --> Also, for s first cycle, do I need to use some anti-estrogens throughout the cycle as well as PCT? If so, should I use anti-aromatics like nolvadex and/or clomid, or estrogen-receptor blockers like arimidex and/or liquidex?

    --> And lastly, is 10 weeks a bit two short to get the most out of my first cycle? I want to play it safe, but would a 12 week cycle still be much better?

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    1) 4 weeks is fine with Prop, just because it's half life is 4 weeks does not mean you will feel it's full effects at week 2.

    2) You have your anti-estrogens and anti-aromatases backwards. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, arimedex is an anti-aromatase.
    You will certainly need Nolvadex for PCT. I would say from the day of your last shot, till the day of your last dose of clomid at 20mg.
    Also during cycle I would run 10mg ed of Nolva to be safe. You may not need it at all, but I say it so you can be sure.

    3) 10 weeks is fine. If you wanted to go longer then lower your dosage a bit. 400mg for 12 weeks is fine.

    Get your diet and sleep in order and you'll grow. Good luck.

    Doc

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    how many times do we need to post the same **** questions?

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    Easy Seid...

    This wasn't so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocHoliday
    Easy Seid...

    This wasn't so bad.
    he posted it only half an hour before this one, just seems to be a thing these last few days with double posts. If there's not enough responses they just post it again.

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    agreed

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    ahhhh, I see

    LOL

    I did that too a few times

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    Yo...guys...lighten up a bit. I didn't purposely post it twice. My comp kinda froze up when i posted it the first time, and I didn't think it was working. So i clicked the submit button again. Turns out it posted twice. Just a mistake. Sorry. Everyone is so quick to get nasty...

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    it's all gravy,

    Did you get your Q's answered?

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    yes...questions answered. Thanks

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