Thread: winny, Var, T-3
02-27-2004, 12:58 AM #1
winny, Var, T-3
Thinking of running a 5 weeker of the following.
1-5 var 30mg ed
1-5 T-3 cycle according to cycleon's model
1-5 winny 50mg eod.
has anyone done anything similar?
right now Im about 185 around 12% I'd say. I'm 5'6".
I know alot of folks are gonna say 'but u need test'... well as cool as test is to be on, I f'ing hate coming off of that. I hate going from super hi test lvls to super low. Besides I have some of that PNP liquid cialis so im not too worried. I also hate clomid and if I can get my hands on some legit primo I was thinking of doing the following instead.
1-5 primo 200mg
1-5 var 30mg ed
1-5 T-3 up and then down.
Im just looking to maintain muscle while cutting up some more and harden up my appearence a bit.
Also I mix up my training throught the year. I'll train like a BB'er for a few months and then train like an athlete for about a month and a half to keep everything tied in and sharp.
Thoughts? Similar experiences?
02-27-2004, 01:07 AM #2Originally Posted by Shortyrock13
1. i won't run var at anything less than 50mg/ed
2. t3 run correctly, but would never take chances on it without test
3. 50mg win eod not gonna cut it, 50mg/ed much better option
adding prop at 50mg/ed(which is'nt much) weeks 1-8 and moving win to weeks 4-8 imo a much better option
02-27-2004, 01:14 AM #3Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
well Johnny B posted medical studies showing how I believe 15mg of var a day promotes positive protien synthesis. The only reason I question higher doses is because I did my first cycle of dbol 30mg ed wk 1-4, and test e- 275-300mg wk for 10 wks. Alot of bro's were like u need at least 400- 500mg of test or U'll be unhappy. Well either Im ultra sensitive to some gear or I work harder cause I went from 170- 194... now im 185. I know people who didn't have virgin receptors and did 50mg eod of winny only and they got results. Test means I bloat... and I am sensitve to bloating, because if I don't overdo the anti-e's I puff up like a blow fish.... sushi anyone?
02-27-2004, 01:19 AM #4Originally Posted by Shortyrock13
and like you say everyone is different....when i pay the $$ for var, I'm gonna get all i can out of it....i've run 40mg/ed and seen no results and i was a pissd off german....
bro, if you run 50mg prop/ed + 10mg nolv + .25ml l-dex and you bloat on that, i'll buy your cycle for you
02-27-2004, 01:42 AM #5Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
02-27-2004, 01:45 AM #6Originally Posted by Shortyrock13
02-27-2004, 08:00 AM #7Originally Posted by Shortyrock13
Low dose them both for a cheap, effective, and low side cutting cycle.
02-27-2004, 08:01 AM #8Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
02-27-2004, 09:09 AM #9
5 weeks is a waste... 50mg/eod of winny is a waste.... 50/ed is almost too low. Next time i run winny it will be 100ED
never used var so i cant really comment on it.
02-27-2004, 11:55 AM #10
02-27-2004, 12:23 PM #11Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
Im pretty sure I can't get masteron but the thought def. crossed my mind and honestly I don't know that much about it other than pro bb'ers use it during contest prep and it hardens you nicely... I don't really want to use winny per se, but I'm looking for very little if any size gain with this cycle and winny is readily available. I'm 5'6" and at 194 I just started to look rediculous( for my first cycle anyway I topped out after about 6 wks so it was a quick gain). I've cut down about 10 lbs now and am starting to look more how I want to look. I know so much of a cycle is diet and training, but with test it seems like its hard to not just slab on raw meat. Now that I've seen the SL primo tests I might buck up for some of that and run like 200mg wk w/ 30-40mg ed of var along with the t-3. There is the joint thing with winny also.
keep em coming.
02-27-2004, 04:09 PM #12
02-27-2004, 04:47 PM #13
I don't see what is wrong with an 8 week prop cycle. 50mg ed? That is a good dose. You'd probably gain 10 solid keepable pounds at the very least. No bloat, from the weight so it would be solid muscle if you had a clean diet. That would be a lot cheaper too. I recently put my friend on that dose and he gained 10 pounds, I can't comment about his diet or lifting but he was please and it only cost 100 bucks
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