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    How would you guys rate these Brands

    On Quality and dosage. What do you guys feel works the best/Quality

    QV - Enanthate ,Deca ,EQ
    Denkall-Deca
    Tornell-EQ,Enanthate,Deca
    Brovel-Enanthate
    Thanks in Advance

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    QV for the enth. Deca . and EQ ((two thumbs up))
    Never tryed Tornell anything
    Brovel REF-B dbol is very nice stuff

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    never run any....never will

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    **** thats what i was afraid of. QV is the most expensive on my list :[
    My experience lies with Ttokkyo and Organon. Cant get ahold of those anymore.
    so gonna try these brands

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    ditto...

    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
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    I say Shanghai Labs, that is the right direction to a cheaper yet sufficent brand.

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    yea, i would find a good UG lab... cheaper than QV, better quality imo, and best of all... domestic.

    but of what you listed, here's how id rank them...

    1 QV (faked alot)
    2 Denkall
    3 Brovel (scary)
    4 Tornel (underdosed, underfilled)

    and by the way, ttokkyo labs is out of business, organon is still in production, and as always, its great gear.

    good luck.

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    I rate them as all mex gear, does that help?

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    Mexican gear is the most expensive on my list as well.

    If you want to go for quality go British Dragon, if you want to go for price go for Shanghai Labs, if you don't want to pay out the ass, DON'T BUY MEX GEAR.

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    All that stuff is vet gear and can be picked up for around 20$ a vial.
    Thats not expensive.

    As far as the brands QV and Denkall are the best of the two

    Tornell and Brovel are both underdosed tornell by about 30% and brovel by about 35%.

    Some other common brands that you mught see are Tokkyo which you should stay away from and reforvit which is underdosed by almost 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRE
    All that stuff is vet gear and can be picked up for around 20$ a vial.
    Thats not expensive.

    As far as the brands QV and Denkall are the best of the two

    Tornell and Brovel are both underdosed tornell by about 30% and brovel by about 35%.

    Some other common brands that you mught see are Tokkyo which you should stay away from and reforvit which is underdosed by almost 50%.
    Is Ttokkyo still in production?? A friend of mine had a bottle of their winny and I was a liitle suspicious.....

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    Still in production but there are so many fakes I wouldn't inject the stuff into a friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRE
    Still in production but there are so many fakes I wouldn't inject the stuff into a friend
    thats what i figured, thanks for the heads up bro....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fallen Angel
    Mexican gear is the most expensive on my list as well.

    If you want to go for quality go British Dragon, if you want to go for price go for Shanghai Labs, if you don't want to pay out the ass, DON'T BUY MEX GEAR.
    dude, why don't you stop using the full name of the ug lab. you keep saying that. Not everyone has the hookup on ug gear. I actually get mex gear cheaper than I get sl. But for the sake of you keeping your hookup, stop using the full name of the lab.

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    Huh?

    Where did you hear that Ttokkyo is gone out of business?

    QV and Ttokkyo are manufactured in the same building / warehouse! My guess is that if Ttokkyo is gone then so is QV.

    I think your info provider is wrong though.

    Both companies are still going strong, dude!

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    Nope your wrong, the owner of ttokkyo was busted in san fransisco 8 months ago for trafficking of ketamine. Ttokkyo is not out of business but have cut done on production and bootleggers have started making more fakes since ttokkyo doesn't stop them anymore. I think your thinking of Denkall and QV, they are both owned by the same person.

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    Oops, my bad!

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    You're right, your bad. Ttokkyo is garbage now, I wouldn't trust it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino58
    You're right, your bad. Ttokkyo is garbage now, I wouldn't trust it.
    They should have stuck with selling just juice and they would have never gotten busted for that special K $***.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    dude, why don't you stop using the full name of the ug lab. you keep saying that. Not everyone has the hookup on ug gear. I actually get mex gear cheaper than I get sl. But for the sake of you keeping your hookup, stop using the full name of the lab.
    Since when did using the full name perhaps get me in trouble with my hookup?

    If you look up Shanghai Lab on here you'll see quite a few posts.

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    because the owner of that lab says in his disclaimer when you purchase from him.. not to use his lab name all over the boards............



    Quote Originally Posted by The Fallen Angel
    Since when did using the full name perhaps get me in trouble with my hookup?

    If you look up Shanghai Lab on here you'll see quite a few posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino58
    You're right, your bad. Ttokkyo is garbage now, I wouldn't trust it.
    IMo ttokkyo was always crap gear..

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    because the owner of that lab says in his disclaimer when you purchase from him.. not to use his lab name all over the boards............
    that is very interesting....you would think they would want bro's talkin about how good there gear is

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