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    Question Jelfa Omnadren (Sustanon 250)

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    I decided to cut out using my 7 sust 250 amps as a frontload to my upcoming cycle. I would like to use the 7 sust in my winter bulker.

    Have anyone ever used Jelfa Omnadren (Sustanon 250)? I had one friend who had some bad experience with Jelfa Omnadren, but he can't inject for ****.

    How many more sust amps would I need to get to have effective results from sust at 500mg/week?

    Thanks

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    Omna is good.

    You're asking how many more amps you need? Do a little math. You have 7. You want to take 2 a week for, I assume, 10 weeks. 20-7=13. You need 13 more.

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    thanks

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    by the way, Omna is not Sus... If I remember right, one of the test's is different, but i can't recall which one off the top of my head. It is said that because of this substiutution, that omna is more prone to water retention, but it is still pretty good stuff regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefitr5287
    by the way, Omna is not Sus... If I remember right, one of the test's is different, but i can't recall which one off the top of my head. It is said that because of this substiutution, that omna is more prone to water retention, but it is still pretty good stuff regardless
    Hmm, I always though omna was one the best sus250 you could get.. Where did you get that omna in not sus??

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    oma IS sust. It used to be different but not any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerdudeleads
    Hmm, I always though omna was one the best sus250 you could get.. Where did you get that omna in not sus??
    Both Omna and Sus 250 are test blends of 3 different tests, but there is a difference. This preparation is quite similar to Sustanon , and is different only in that 100 mg/mL of it (of 250 mg/mL total) is testosterone hexanoate instead of the testosterone decanoate used in Sustanon. For this reason, Omnadren has a shorter half life, and will give a faster initial increase in blood level. This accounts for the claim of increased water retention and increased side effects, since levels, at first, are higher for the same dosage.

    Not much difference, but to call Omnadren and Sus250 the same thing is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman
    oma IS sust. It used to be different but not any more
    Drug profiles on every site say they are still different because of the hexonate/deconate switch

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    I have seen maybe one or two sites that say that the new Omnadren mix is the same as Sus, but that sounds strange to me. If that was the case, why wouldn't everbody update their drug profiles? At least for now, I will go with the many versus the few.

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    Omadren

    I have Omnadren 250, I obtain it in Europe as it is very popular there and it is very similar to Sustonon 250. There is very little water retention as well and I have never had a bad experience using this product at all. A box of 5 in Eastern Europe run me about 9.50 USD.

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipops
    Members,

    I decided to cut out using my 7 sust 250 amps as a frontload to my upcoming cycle. I would like to use the 7 sust in my winter bulker.

    Have anyone ever used Jelfa Omnadren (Sustanon 250)? I had one friend who had some bad experience with Jelfa Omnadren, but he can't inject for ****.

    How many more sust amps would I need to get to have effective results from sust at 500mg/week?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefitr5287
    Drug profiles on every site say they are still different because of the hexonate/deconate switch
    i have read a 100 times they stoped doing that and made it the same thing... maybe im wrong

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    They used to be different, but they're the exact same now.

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    *does the i was write you were wrong dance*

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    I've got Omnas, love em.
    wk1-8 500mg/omna
    wk1-10 nolva

    low water ret. for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slobberknocker
    Omna is good.

    You're asking how many more amps you need? Do a little math. You have 7. You want to take 2 a week for, I assume, 10 weeks. 20-7=13. You need 13 more.


    man, with an explination like that I coulda done so much better on my sats

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefitr5287
    Both Omna and Sus 250 are test blends of 3 different tests, but there is a difference. This preparation is quite similar to Sustanon , and is different only in that 100 mg/mL of it (of 250 mg/mL total) is testosterone hexanoate instead of the testosterone decanoate used in Sustanon. For this reason, Omnadren has a shorter half life, and will give a faster initial increase in blood level. This accounts for the claim of increased water retention and increased side effects, since levels, at first, are higher for the same dosage.

    Not much difference, but to call Omnadren and Sus250 the same thing is wrong.
    sorry, good post, just there are 4 blends

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    sorry, good post, just there are 4 blends
    yeah, saw that after I hit post... too late to take it back now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefitr5287
    yeah, saw that after I hit post... too late to take it back now..

    *points to the edit button*

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural


    man, with an explination like that I coulda done so much better on my sats

    lol, hey it's why I'm here.

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    Did we forget to mention that Jelfa themselves were putting 100mg of Enanthate in their 250 amps and calling it omnadren ! I wouldn't touch Jelfa anymore bro...I picked up some of those Omnadren amps a couple of years ago and had them tested and sure enough they were 100mgs of enanthate. I posted pics in the steroid pics forum a year or two ago, i don't know if they're still there, but I think i kept a couple of the amps so i can probably post another pic to compare them. I'd stay awy from them unless you don't mind paying that price for 100mgs of enanthate!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallet
    Did we forget to mention that Jelfa themselves were putting 100mg of Enanthate in their 250 amps and calling it omnadren! I wouldn't touch Jelfa anymore bro...I picked up some of those Omnadren amps a couple of years ago and had them tested and sure enough they were 100mgs of enanthate. I posted pics in the steroid pics forum a year or two ago, i don't know if they're still there, but I think i kept a couple of the amps so i can probably post another pic to compare them. I'd stay awy from them unless you don't mind paying that price for 100mgs of enanthate!!!

    That's a first. That's a pretty serious statement bro. Do you have the lab test results that you could post up for everyone to see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slobberknocker
    That's a first. That's a pretty serious statement bro. Do you have the lab test results that you could post up for everyone to see?
    I don't need to...they were exposed on this board a couple of years ago for doing that...that's what prompted me to get mine checked because i had already purchased 100amps!!!

    do a search for jelpha...or i'll try and dig up the info! Things may have been corrected since...but they've lost my trust!..This wasn't some dealer selling fakes it was jelfa themselves.

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    Correct... Newer batches should all have the same mix as sustanon ...

    Omnas are very good, some say not a clean a product as organon,
    but still a human grade anabolic steroid and very good quality...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman
    oma IS sust. It used to be different but not any more

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    Jelfa also makes a 100mg/ml testosterone enanthate amp

    I'm not certain on this, since I don't remember any of the
    threads talking about this problem, but it could have been
    product mislabeled as something else and was shipped out
    as Omnadrens... I inspect labs and glass manufacturers all
    the time and sometimes the things I see here in the US has
    me shaking my head...

    Could have been an honest screw up Mallet... Shouldn't have
    happened, but sometimes happens more then you know about...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mallet
    I don't need to...they were exposed on this board a couple of years ago for doing that...that's what prompted me to get mine checked because i had already purchased 100amps!!!

    do a search for jelpha...or i'll try and dig up the info! Things may have been corrected since...but they've lost my trust!..This wasn't some dealer selling fakes it was jelfa themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    Jelfa also makes a 100mg/ml testosterone enanthate amp

    I'm not certain on this, since I don't remember any of the
    threads talking about this problem, but it could have been
    product mislabeled as something else and was shipped out
    as Omnadrens... I inspect labs and glass manufacturers all
    the time and sometimes the things I see here in the US has
    me shaking my head...

    Could have been an honest screw up Mallet... Shouldn't have
    happened, but sometimes happens more then you know about...
    You could be right bro!...I'm not trying to discourage anyone from using Omna's...I will personally pass though! you can get Organons or norma's for just as cheap these days.

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    Yeah that's cool brotha... I understand you had

    a bad experience with them... Omnas can be found

    alot cheaper from the right sources though... Organon

    Sustanon will always be more expensive for the same thing...

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    Omnadren has the following esters: testosteronum propionicum 30mg
    testosteronum phenylopropionicum 60mg
    testosteronum isocaprinicum 60mg
    testosteronum caprinicum 100mg

    Sustanon is a different thing it does have some different ester

    Then, there is a similar box of Enanthate it's called Testosteronum prolongatum. 100mg/ml

    I'm polish I know what I'm saying, there are similar boxes Omnadren is white-pink, Enanthate is -white-orange.
    Both made by Jelfa. - Polish Jelfa

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefitr5287
    Both Omna and Sus 250 are test blends of 3 different tests, but there is a difference. This preparation is quite similar to Sustanon , and is different only in that 100 mg/mL of it (of 250 mg/mL total) is testosterone hexanoate instead of the testosterone decanoate used in Sustanon. For this reason, Omnadren has a shorter half life, and will give a faster initial increase in blood level. This accounts for the claim of increased water retention and increased side effects, since levels, at first, are higher for the same dosage.

    Not much difference, but to call Omnadren and Sus250 the same thing is wrong.
    it used to be this way, but it's the same now. and by the way its 4 different tests...

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    Question does anybody know?

    i just bought a bottle of aa test 250 because i thought it was sus 250 what is the best way to run this by itself it will be my 2nd cycle . first cycle 1 ml a week of sus for 10 weeks.
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    everyone keeps saying omna and sust are exactly the same. I just had both. Explain to me then why I can inject omna with no pain after at all,but with sust I can't sit down for 4 days. and this experience is not coming from just from one shot,but plenty of both.

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