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    jkddave is offline Junior Member
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    Better cycle??

    Hey Guys,

    195lbs., 5'11'', 1 cycle, 4 years of training.

    Which would be the better first cycle?

    Cycle 1

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol 20mg. p/day
    Week 1-10 Nolvadex 10mg. p/day
    Week 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day
    Week 12-14 Clomid 300/100/50

    Cycle 2

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-10 Equipoise 200mg. p/week
    Week 1-10 Nolvadex 10mg. p/day
    Week 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day
    Week 12-14 Clomid 300/100/50

    Or should I just stay simple and go with only the Test. for 10 weeks. Then for the next cycle start adding all the bells and whistles??

    Thanks in advance boys and gals!!!

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    test by itself for 10

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    Either cycle would be fine but the first one will be better for you. I would just change it a bit.

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol 35mg. p/day
    Week 1-13 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 -21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva


    Quote Originally Posted by jkddave
    Hey Guys,

    195lbs., 5'11'', 1 cycle, 4 years of training.

    Which would be the better first cycle?

    Cycle 1

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol 20mg. p/day
    Week 1-10 Nolvadex 10mg. p/day
    Week 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day
    Week 12-14 Clomid 300/100/50

    Cycle 2

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-10 Equipoise 200mg. p/week
    Week 1-10 Nolvadex 10mg. p/day
    Week 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day
    Week 12-14 Clomid 300/100/50

    Or should I just stay simple and go with only the Test. for 10 weeks. Then for the next cycle start adding all the bells and whistles??

    Thanks in advance boys and gals!!!

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    anyone else?

    to the top

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    mudman has it right... up the dbol to 35 mgs ed minimum.

    if you decide to run eq, its going to have to be at least 400 mgs a week, so that means you'd have to up the test to 500 mgs a week to compensate.

    whichever route you go, you'll be happy with the results... thanks for doing research and posting all of your stats, big help.

    good luck...

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    hey MUD- shouldnt PCT begin 2wks after with cyp?



    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Either cycle would be fine but the first one will be better for you. I would just change it a bit.

    Week 1-10 Test.Cyp. 400mg. p/week
    Week 1-4 Russian D-Bol 35mg. p/day
    Week 1-13 Nolvadex 20mg. p/day

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 -21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by zx7racing
    hey MUD- shouldnt PCT begin 2wks after with cyp?
    No, Cyp will stick around in your system for about 18 days..... so 3 weeks after last injection is when you want to start PCT..... 2 weeks would be too early.

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