First REAL cycle, Critique Please!

**Honest Abe** · 03-02-2004, 01:44 PM

1-4 Weeks dbol @ 30mg ed
1-10 Deca @ 400mg/week
1-12 test enanthate 500mg/week
1-14 proviron 25mg ed
1-14 nolvadex 10mg ed
14-16 clomid for pct 300/100/50
and hcg on hand(may or may not use, deepending how my nuts react)

ok let it rip what do you think?

i've done alot of research and i know this is a basic bulking cycle, but i just wanted to see what you guys thought.

Also if you've done this cycle please tell me how it went for you.

Thanks
Abe

***asymmetrical1*** · 03-02-2004, 01:47 PM

looks good bro

**Sorken** · 03-02-2004, 01:48 PM

what do you mean with real cycle ??
what cycle did you run before.. ???

**PuddleMonkey** · 03-02-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Honest Abe

First REAL cycle, Critique Please!

So you've done smaller doses of something in the past? I hope so, otherwise I think you're starting out with too much.

**Honest Abe** · 03-02-2004, 01:56 PM

yea my first cycle was deca only(decent gains but very stupid i know)

and then i did a cycle of sustanon 250mg every 3D (Very disapointed)

thats why i say first real cycle cause the other ones were pretty week and i didn't stack them with any thing

**Sorken** · 03-02-2004, 02:00 PM

sustanon 250 E3D.. didn't you gain any from that.. you should..

Anyway...

You cycle looks good now...
Good luck this time !!

**quebecbulk** · 03-02-2004, 02:34 PM

classic mass builder...you should do very off that.

ps: if you dont, then take up golf

**quebecbulk** · 03-02-2004, 02:36 PM

oops just noticed something...take out the nolva and only keep it on hand in case of flare ups...running it through out will inhibit gains since it lowers igf levels.

**PuddleMonkey** · 03-02-2004, 03:08 PM

No gains from Sust250? Uh.... I'm gonna have to go with poor quality/fake sauce, or your diet/workout program was ****.

**razor67** · 03-02-2004, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by quebecbulk

oops just noticed something...take out the nolva and only keep it on hand in case of flare ups...running it through out will inhibit gains since it lowers igf levels.

IMO..inhabition if gains due to running nolvaxex through cycle is very minimal if any... i would rater prevent the problems from occuring then having to treat them once they do... even if there is a slight loss of gains ill take the trade off..

**Bartleby** · 03-02-2004, 03:26 PM

I agree with razor, better to be safe than sorry so run the nolva at 10mg/ed...other than that cycle looks good...good luck...

**toolman** · 03-02-2004, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by quebecbulk

oops just noticed something...take out the nolva and only keep it on hand in case of flare ups...running it through out will inhibit gains since it lowers igf levels.

WRONG. Nolva does not inhibit gains unless you consider estrogen related water bloat a gain. It also helps lipid profiles which go screwy on cycle.

**toolman** · 03-02-2004, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Honest Abe

yea my first cycle was deca only(decent gains but very stupid i know)

and then i did a cycle of sustanon 250mg every 3D (Very disapointed)

thats why i say first real cycle cause the other ones were pretty week and i didn't stack them with any thing

If you didnt gain on sust250 E3D, then your gear was bogus or you werent eating, resting, lifting right.

**quebecbulk** · 03-02-2004, 07:39 PM

well my train of though on the whole nolvadex issue was that if he did nt get any gyno off 250/mg sust e3d then he would nt get any off 500mg/wk of enth.

just my 2 cents