About to make own dietpill!! Any suggestions Bros?

Hey I'm sick of hearing article after article of unproper dosage and negligance by stackercompanies (ECA) and they don;t use their ingredients properly ---
It's either underdosed or unproportional (Like for instance in medical literature caffeine is most synergical with ephedrine if used in 10:1 ratio then I hear companies using 35 mg of ephedrine and 120 mg of cafeine!!).

Any suggestions and genius ideas are more than welcome:

Well as follows:

25 mg Pure Ephedrine HCL
250 mg Caffeine Anhydreous
5 mg Yohimbine HCL

(the first two are synergitical metabolism-accelerators and yohimbine is an alpha2-antagonist so it removes the nasty "wont come off" Fat-tissue)

20 mg Goggulsterones (which has prooved to be good for LDL/HDL cholesterol ratio and Increases number of T4-hormones for better fatburning)

5 mg Sibutramine HCL (Which in addition to ephedrine also reduces appetite and makes weight more "keepable" in addition to making you more relaxed while taking stimulants like ephedrine and cafeine)

Now the part that is optional:

100 mg usnic Acid (although very effective in fatburning through ineffecient use of ATP/ADP and therefor destroying fatcells, also very livertoxic but I think if used 3 times a day that would come down to 300 mg a day is a relatively safe dosage especially if this pill is used two weeks on, two weeks off with maybe Clen+Taurine in off weeks)

so summarized (per capsule)

25 mg Pure Ephedrine HCL
250 mg Caffeine Anhydreous
5 mg Yohimbine HCL
20 mg Goggulsterones
5 mg Sibutramine HCL
100 mg usnic Acid

milkthistle and vitamine c as a filler (so 405 mg is turned in about 800 mg to make capsulemaking more effecient)

Should I add Green Tea? (for stimulant-reducing effects and fatburning capabilities?) or not...

Any further suggestions Bros?

Thanks in advance

Kingofmasters

So everybody agrees with me then?

Please comment Bros!

(If you like the idea also say it so I would knwo what to order!)

looks great...


send me 300 caps........

thanks:lift:

i think you need some aspirin in their....

IMO...it looks way to complicated...why not just a plain ole' eca stack???

better add some amphetamines bro..lol :lol:

think about these bro:
Garcinia Fruit
Green Tea leaf
Coleus root
Turmeric rhizome
Elderberry
Yohimbe bark
Bitter Orange Peel
Gymnema leaf
Bladderwrack fronds
Ginger Rhizome,supercritical CO2 extract

Green Tea has traditionally been used to support mental function,promote digestion,reduce flatulence,and to regulate body temperature.It is used here for the effect of several of its components to stimulate lipolysis by preventing the breakdown of cyclic AMP.Cyclic AMP affects hormonal messages within a fat cell.This "message" helps to amplify the response of a fat cell to adrenaline,the hormone that tells it to burn fat.Green Tea is also valuable here as an established antioxidant and as a moderate stimulant, further assisting the underlying function of the formula.

Garcinia-Malabar Tamarind is a natural source of hydroxycitric acid (HCA). HCA is known to cause an increase in fat metabolism,possibly via its influence on liver function.

Coleu Forskohlii is perhaps Green Tea's best friend when it comes to weight-loss.As mentioned above,utilization of fat is in part controlled by the hormone adrenaline,along with its capacity to form cyclic AMP inside a fat cell.Green Tea and Coleus both modify the fat burning affect of adrenaline (via modification of beta-1 adrenergic-receptor cAMP expression). Forskolin,one of the main active molecules in Coleus,also plays a role by promoting a healthy nervous state and supporting thyroid hormone production,making it particularly well suited for weight management.

Elderberries bring a number of desirable qualities to this formula.They are recognized to promote healthy elimination patterns an support the liver.Via these actions,Elderberry promotes the removal of cellular wastes and helps to correct general metabolism.

Gymnema leaf is a digestive or stomach tonic with well-known support to the urinary system.It has been reported to "maintain sugar levels within their normal range".Gymnema is also known as gur-mur (which literally means sugar destroying) because of its noted ability to abolish the taste of sugar.

Bladderwrack fronds have been widely used for weight management.Such benefit quite possibly results from its supportive effect on thyroid function. Bladderwrack fronds must be harvested however from pristine water,as they are known to absorb toxic waste material from polluted waters.

Turmeric root serves this formula through its outstanding antioxidant and liver supportive effects.Normalizing liver function during weight management is highly desirable.The liver is actively involved in regulating blood sugar availability,and metabolism of the 3-ketosteroids,a group of hormones which affect fat metabolism.

Ginger root addresses healthy digestion and works as an antioxidant.In addition to these benefits,Ginger is useful here as a support to the circulatory system,helping to deliver the entire formula throughout the body.

Yohimbe has been included in this formula specifically for its ability to redirect adrenaline toward the receptors on fat cells that burn fat (Beta-1),and by blocking those receptors which result in fat storage (Alpha-2).

Bitter Orange is used for weight loss due to its purported thermogenic effects.

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Originally Posted by ColdStone

i think you need some aspirin in their....

IMO...it looks way to complicated...why not just a plain ole' eca stack???

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Some people say it inhibits protein synthesis, but I don't think it's an issue

I think it sounds great! I will take 500 caps! But, will mine have amphetamines in them? LMAO!

Bro looks like a good stack but add some asprin or white willow bark - gotta prevent platelet aggregation - my.02

hey king, where are you getting your usnic acid from? i cant find the **** anywhere.

I get it for free but if you aren't as lucky as me you can try

http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10428/SC-U3019

the aspirin is necessary for platlette agregation..

Good info, I'm in the process of making an ECA also.

:lol: why not try to make your own cocaine ....it would be alot more profitable :lol:

Well i'm not intending to sell....

And in here in Holland cocaine is availbale so ...

too much competition! ;)

Greets
Kingofmasters

Well I finally made them!

I made 1000 of them....

the first 700 contain these:

30 mg Ephedrine
300 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
20 mg Goggulsterones (60% E en 40% Z)
5 mg Sibutramine
70 mg Acetyl-L-carnitine
100 mg Green Thea Extract (98% Polyfenols)
100 mcg Levothyroxine (T4-hormones)
120 mg Vitamine C

And the remaining 300 them contain these:

30 mg Ephedrine
300 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
20 mg Goggulsterones (60% E en 40% Z)
5 mg Sibutramine
70 mg Acetyl-L-carnitine
100 mg Green Thea Extract (98% Polyfenols)
100 mcg Levothyroxine Sodium (T4-hormones)
20 mg Vitamine C
100 mg Usnic Acid

I didn't add any Aspirin since they are going to be used 2 weeks on 2 weeks off maximum and research has shown that Aspirin isn't needed if used in such a shedule...

And aspirin has many long term side-effects and lowers testosterone

By the way the combination of Goggulsterones (Which raises T3-levels) and Levothyroxine Sodium (which basically is T4 Which will be converted in T3) will be very effective for fatloss without the Muscle Catabolism of straight T3 supplementation (and the risks of thyroid deactivation!).

Anyways for the next 2 years I'm set...

And it only has cost me about $150!!

Greets
Kingofmasters

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100 mg usnic Acid (although very effective in fatburning through ineffecient use of ATP/ADP and therefor destroying fatcells, also very livertoxic but I think if used 3 times a day that would come down to 300 mg a day is a relatively safe dosage

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No way would I ever touch UA, and that's coming from someone who likes DNP.

Usnic Acid is surely nothing to mess with

But I'm planning to use these caps in the 5 "off" days while trying mallets T3 cycle:

7 days on T3 and 5 days off (in these days I will use the capswith Usnic Acid)

Let's not forget That Lipokinetix used the much more dangerous Sodium Usniate @ 200 mg per cap

so 100 mg x 3 ED for 5 days max with an off week is fairly safe!

greets

kingofmasters

(BTW the dangers and side effects of DNP are fairly overrated --> DNP is very safe if used properly and even comfortable during cold Holland winters)

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Originally Posted by kingofmasters

so 100 mg x 3 ED for 5 days max with an off week is fairly safe!

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I hope you are right, but either way I wouldn't chance it. Of course a lot of people say the same thing about DNP. :lol:

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Originally Posted by kingofmasters

(BTW the dangers and side effects of DNP are fairly overrated --> DNP is very safe if used properly and even comfortable during cold Holland winters)

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I agree. Stay safe bro.

Due to a couple of PM's i received I will explain how I made them

Every capsule contains this:
30 mg Ephedrine
300 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
20 mg Goggulsterones (60% E en 40% Z)
5 mg Sibutramine
70 mg Acetyl-L-carnitine
100 mg Green Thea Extract (98% Polyfenols)
100 mcg Levothyroxine Sodium (T4-hormones)

this is a filler:
Vitamine C

and this optional:
Usnic Acid

What you do is
mix in a great plastic sack

30 grams of Ephedrine HCL (not Ma Huang Extract!, but the real deal!)
300 grams of Cafeine
5 grams of Yohimbine HCL
5 grams of Sibutramine
20 grams of Goggulsterones
100 grams of Green Tea Extract
70 grams of Acetyl-L-carnitine
20 grams of Vitamine C

this makes for 550 grams of Material then Shake the bag really well for about 3 minutes! (so for 1000 capsules that would make for 550 mg Blend per capsule).

Then you take (I'm using the excellent Capsule Maker by Capsule Connection)
and take some of the powder and fill one Capsule half really well and then weigh it with a very precise scale (It showed 650 mg after I let the scale deduct the weight of the capsule).

650 mg per cap says you have to have 650 grams of Blend

After all I only have 550 gram, so I have to have 100 grams of extra filler
(the perfect filler is Vitamine C).

Seeing I want to make 300 caps with Usnic Acid (100 mg per cap).

I devided the Blend in two parts:
One containing 165 grams of Blend (enough for 300 capsules)
and another containing 385 grams of Blend (enough for 700 capsules)

I added 70 grams of Vitamine C to the 385 grams of Blend
and 30 grams of Usnic Acid to the 165 grams....

This makes for
Part 1: 195 grams of "Evolved Blend"
Part 2: 455 grams of "Evolved Blend"

I then with help of my Capsule Maker stuffed all Capsules with a blendkind (so 700 caps of Normal ECY and 300 caps off ECY with Usnic Acid)...

Then I took:
45 ml of Destilled Water
and added 5 ml of Benzyl Alcohol To this mixture I added 100 mg Levothyroxine Sodium (T4-hormones).
And with help of a Microscale Inject I inserted 0,05 ml of this solution on every cap on every Batch --> you can make 24 caps per pressing(so this is how I got 100 mcg T4 hormones in every cap)...

I hope this has been eductional for all of you...

Greets

Kingofmasters

Found a source that sells Orlistat! (Maybe will include 120 mg per pill in the near future)

Thanks Bros

Kingofmasters