Does this make sense?

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 02:38 PM

I posted this on the member's cycle result page but maybe I'll get more feedback in here.
Here's what I got:

a 20ml vial of IP Deca (300mg/ml)
100 Tabs of 10mg Danabol DS
30 Tabs of 20mg Nolvadex
24 Tabs of 50mg Clomid

After some research I put this cycle together:

Weeks 1-3: 300mg Deca per week
Weeks 4-10: 20mg Danabol per day + 300mg Deca per week

I need some help in finding out when to slide in the Clomid. And if I should wait for signs before using the Nolvadex.

Thanks in advance for the help.

**MBaraso** · 03-04-2004, 02:44 PM

Whats your stats? age height etc.
And you need test in ANY cycle you decide to run.
If your a first timer go w/ test e @ 500mgs per week. And maybe dbol , but that's it.

**Consistency** · 03-04-2004, 02:46 PM

stats.... etc....

You dbol at the begginning and you NEED test in there! Check the link on my profile

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 02:54 PM

I'm 27, 160 pounds, 5'10". I've been working out for 3 year solid and now I've decided to get serious. Can I mix the test in with the other stuff I got? Will Testiviron Depot work?

**Consistency** · 03-04-2004, 02:59 PM

yes test depot will work... That is a lot of gear for a first cycle. I would run test by itself with dbol as a kickstart, but if you really want to run the deca I would run the cycle like this:

wk 1-4 dbol 30mg ED
wk 1-12 test 400-500mg a week
wk 1-11 deca 300-400mg a week
nolva 10mg ED
start pct 2 weeks after last test shot

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 03:09 PM

Is there anything bad about running the Deca in the cycle, you said thats a lot of gear for a first cycle. I mean I've been working out pretty hard for a while so I think and hope that my body is ready to support the extra weight i'll be pushing. Also you mean I should start the Clomid two weeks after the last test shot?

Thanks

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 06:13 PM

bump

**MBaraso** · 03-04-2004, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

yes test depot will work... That is a lot of gear for a first cycle. I would run test by itself with dbol as a kickstart, but if you really want to run the deca I would run the cycle like this:

wk 1-4 dbol 30mg ED
wk 1-12 test 400-500mg a week
wk 1-11 deca 300-400mg a week
nolva 10mg ED
start pct 2 weeks after last test shot

I like that cycle but I agree it's too much for a first timer.
Stick with dbol/test like he has it.
Clomid would start 2 weeks after the last test shot.

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 06:52 PM

Thanks guys. But one question, what should I do with this Deca if I go with the test. Could I use it as part of a second cycle? With the 12 week cycle you huys recomend how long should I wait to start the second?

Thanks

**MBaraso** · 03-04-2004, 06:54 PM

forget about the deca bro, no need for it in your first. I would usually tell you to save it but being it's IP deca...I'd sell it. It's garbage IMO.
12 weeks on = 12 weeks off

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 06:55 PM

Thanks again!

**03-MASTERBLASTER-11** · 03-04-2004, 06:59 PM

Don't do your dbol for longer than 6 weeks(20-25mg ED if first timer). It's only for jumpstarting and you'll tear your liver up. just make sure you have some test. You have to have a foundation. Save the deca for your next and more experienced cycle. A Dbol/test cycle is the simple, safe, and effective if your just getting your feet wet.
But we also need cycle exp, stats, age, etc.

**mike407** · 03-04-2004, 07:10 PM

If I get the Testiviron Depot 1ml Amp @ 250mg/ml can I use partial amps to be at 400mg a week and saved the left over test in the amp for the next week? In other words can I dip into the amp after I already opened it, like a few days later. BTW, this will be my first cycle, I'm 27 and have been working out solidly for three years. 5'10", 160 pounds. Any idea how much I can expect to gain on a good high intensity, high weight, low rep workout and good diet (170g protein/day and 3500 calories/day)?

Thanks

**mike407** · 03-05-2004, 05:46 AM

bump

**Consistency** · 03-05-2004, 10:21 AM

yeah my test enan is 250mg/ml but i want to take 400mg a week. So i just inject 4/5 a ml twice a week.

Your gear will still be good for the next week.

**mike407** · 03-05-2004, 10:49 AM

How do you store the left over in the amp?

Thanks

**mike407** · 03-05-2004, 12:10 PM

bump

**mike407** · 03-05-2004, 07:20 PM

Does anyobody have any suggestions for a safe way to store the left over juice in a amp if I don't use it all? I'm only talking about saving it for 4 days until my next injection.

**Consistency** · 03-05-2004, 07:33 PM

just draw out the full ml from the amp.... inject what you need and leave the rest in the syringe. The next time you are ready switch the needle out and inject the rest.

**magicstick2003** · 03-05-2004, 07:42 PM

you could also order yourself a sterile vial... and i guess you could draw all your amps and put them in there, and then you can just draw out what you need each week.. in order to get 400 per week (you should do two shots 1 E4D w/ 200mg shot)
this seems like the easiest, since then leftover won;t be left in an open amp or in a syringe....also you could use a whatman to filter it into the vial and that way you don;t have to worry about any micro shards of glass which could have potentially fallen in when you broke the amp...