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    Question Need help with cycle

    Im 21, weigh 196, and am 6'2. I have taken a cycle of test 250 an gained about 15 lbs. I am about to start taking sustonen and winstrol and need to know the best way to cycle it threw a 8 week cycle, also any info on a good work out program is nice...im tired of mine and am not very happy with it, my goal is to be around 220 lbs...any info would be great... thank you


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    Well good job on the test only cycle.
    My suggestion would be to run your next cycle 10-12 weeks. Forget the sus though, use test e or c.
    Week 1-10 Test e 500mgs
    Week 8-12 Winny 50mgs ed
    Clomid 1 day out

    Nolva on hand etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    damm you beat me by a few seconds

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    I would run it longer the 8 weeks,,, atleast 10

    wk 1-10 sust 500mg (split 4 shots a week)
    wk 8-13 winny 50mg ED

    nolva 10mg ED
    start pct 3 weeks after last sust shot

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    ive already got the sus so im kinda stuck with that sence theres no reciept,lol, so what would u recomend i do with what i got.

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    Well then run it like consistancy said, but in the future try to go w/ test e or c because it's easier to maintain bloodlevels.
    Here's why: http://www.basskilleronline.com/sust250.html

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    Im new to all this so if i sound like i dont know much its probly cause i dont...but figured i ask to find out...when u say 500mg is that half a cc?

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    no...Sus comes in 250mgs per cc. So 500mgs = 2 cc's.
    Take one cc on Sun and another on Weds.

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    alright, well thanks for all the info...helped out a lot. i wasnt realy sure on how long to run the cycle...ill get back to in a few weeks and let you know how its going

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckets
    Im new to all this so if i sound like i dont know much its probly cause i dont...but figured i ask to find out...when u say 500mg is that half a cc?
    I asumed you knew alitte bit more...
    To say the least I strongly urge u to do more research before u start this next cycle. The educational forums on this site will be a good place to start.
    It doesn't sound to me like you know much about PCT and anti e's, If you do I apoligize. I'm just making sure consistancy and I aren't telling u to run something that you don't understand why your running them.

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    oh i understand...i came to yall for help so any criticism is welcome...and i have checked out a lot of the info on the site and it to has helped..and no i dont know much about PCT and anti e's...ive only done one cycle and i ran it for 8 weeks doing a cc for the first and last 3 weeks an 2 in the middle 2 weeks

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    well do you have clomid and nolva and/or liquidex? the nolva/ liquidex will prevent gyno (bitcch tits) and it will also help keep the bloat down. Clomid will restore your natural test levels back to normal as quick as possible. both are a must in any cycle

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    no i have neither...see this is why im glad i came here before i got into anymore cycles....were can i get those and when do i need to take them

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    2 weeks after your last test shot take 300mg of clomid on the first day, then for day 2-11 take 100mg ED, then day 12-21 take 50mg ED. This will restore your HPTA back to normal, you will also keep most of your gains. Nolva I would take 10mg ED. Some people dont take it ED, they wait for gyno symptons, but I take it so I wont have to worry about it at all and it will keep the bloat down.

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    were can i get clomid and nolva?

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    check your pm

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