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03-08-2004, 11:02 AM #1New Member
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my stats & what im looking to do...
27 yrs old -- 5 foot 10 inches -- 225lbs --- not sure of bf %--the bf% calculator says 19%, but that cannot be right..
from diet & cardio lost 55lbs -- (weighed 280 2 years ago)
im not looking to bulk, however, i would like to gain some quality muscle and cut some more fat...my diet and cardio are still very strong--never cycled before...
here is what i have so far...
2000mg winstrol DK
2000mg eq QV
140 clen tabs
45 clomid tabs - 50mg/tab..
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03-08-2004, 11:09 AM #2
You should get some test propinate for that cycle...you definitly need that.... I would leave out the EQ and do 100mg Prop EOD and 100mg Winny EOD....eat a very clean diet and do an hour of cardio a day....you should be able to cut a lot of fat and still hold on to some quality muscle...but remeber winny doesn't burn fat..it helps you to harden up and maintain muscle while dieting.....
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03-08-2004, 11:10 AM #3
I'd suggest t3/clen while using 500mgs of test e per week. That will add strenght/size while preserving muscle while your dieting. Also i'd use 10-15mgs per day of nolva or l-dex to keep any water off. Only reason I"m not suggesting test prop is because you've never shot up before and I don't think you should jump right into ed or eod shots.
The t3/clen, along w/ diet and cardio will take the fat off.
Save the eq/winny for another time.
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03-08-2004, 11:14 AM #4
those body fat calculators don't take into account that muscle is heavier than fat, so you are probably closer to 15-17%, not 19 given your stats.
i would eliminate the EQ and run test prop winny as this will produce some lean gains with minimal water retention.
coupled with the clen , you should see some great results that you want if your diet remains solid and you train hard.
1-6 test prop @ 75mg/ED
1-6 winny @ 50mg/ED
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1-2 clen @ 120mcg/ED
4-5 clen @ 120mcg/ED
6-7 clen @ 120mcg/ED
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PCT regiment (begin 3 days after last shot of prop)
day 1 - clomid @ 300mg
day 2-11 clomid @ 150mg
day 12-21 clomid @ 50mg
you shouldn't experience a shutdown with a modest dosage of test like that, however getting into a proper post cycle regiment is the way to maximize gains further down the road.
good luck.
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03-08-2004, 01:11 PM #5New Member
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this is a short cycle?? 6 weeks?? i am not losing out on such a short cycle am i? also, i know the winny can be inj EOD -- can the test prop also be injected eod??
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03-08-2004, 01:13 PM #6New Member
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Originally Posted by Snooch99
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03-08-2004, 03:50 PM #7
test prop they 'say' SHOULD be injected daily, but beeing that it hurts too **** much and there isnt a BIG need to, ya i would do prop EOD.it has around a 27 hour lasting period so you will be good as long as you time it right.good luck
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03-08-2004, 03:52 PM #8Originally Posted by Snooch99
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03-08-2004, 03:59 PM #9Originally Posted by itsallmental
Test prop is a better choice for cutting but I don't know if you wanna jump right into ed or eod injects...Thats why I suggested test e
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