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    First Cycle, should I run 400 or 500 grams of test a week.

    Hey all, my plans are to either run 200 mg of Enan every 4 days or 250 mg. Which would you guys recommend for a first cycle. I also intend to run EQ at 150-200 every 4 days. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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    at your height weight and bf% 500mgs a week should be about right.

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    if this is your first cycle, no need for eq, run test at 400mg a week for 10 weeks like this:

    1-10 test e 400mg
    10mg nolva ED
    .25 ldex ED

    PCT 2 weeks after last shot of test

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    So I should honestly only stick to test for my first cycle? I have heard that you should make use of your fresh receptors for your first time?

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    sitck with test only for a first cycle
    this way you will know what side effects come from what drug. IE if your on deca and test, and you get bad side effects, you wont know if its from the test or deca
    IMO i would run test e at 500mg/wk and kick start it with prop or dbol

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    Nope, scott is right. Fact is you dont even know how you will react to test let alone a hard core ananbolic like EQ. There is a difference between androgenics and anabolics. “Anabolic ” refers to muscle-building, and “androgenic ” refers to increased masculine characteristics. Androgenics are the synthetic male hormone. Anabolics cause shrinking of the testicles, reduced sperm count, infertility, baldness, development of breasts, increased risk for prostate cancer, impotence, etc...the list goes on. EQ is an anabolic.

    Test is the base of any cycle and highly recommended alone for a first cycle. Your receptors will be just as ready by the next cycle if this one goes right. Be patient, do it right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix12
    So I should honestly only stick to test for my first cycle? I have heard that you should make use of your fresh receptors for your first time?
    Last edited by LuvMyRoids; 03-08-2004 at 04:53 PM.

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    lkickstart w/ prop all the way

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    Don't worry about your receptors. A good old TEST only cycle is perfect. If your diet is in check along with your training and sleep, you can gain 15+ pounds off a test cycle. Make sure you have proper Post cycle thearpy and your over the age of 21!!

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    I believe in giving ppl safe advice....but I see no problem with running 2 compounds the first cycle.....alot of the mods on this board would agree with me also.

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    im having good result with test 250 e4d and dbols (and a good diet).
    ive gained about 6.5 lbs in 1 week (yes, you read well!) and i dont look very much puffy (actually my veins in my arms are gettin bigger) even if i know some of it has to be water.
    add some dbols if you want to kickstart your cycle... i dont feel them so "heavy" so far.
    good luck

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    I agree with what was stated above...However, my first was 600 test and 400 eq and I liked it alot.(all 30lbs of it). I also kickstarted with d-bol. THIS IS NOT A RECOMENDATION[B][U] but it is what I did and was very happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I believe in giving ppl safe advice....but I see no problem with running 2 compounds the first cycle.....alot of the mods on this board would agree with me also.
    the reason i like test only first cycles is just like LMR said, i would want to know what sides i get from test first, like if you ran deca and test and started seeing signs of gyno, which would you go with, nolva or bromo? well, you don't know because you don't know if it's the test or the deca, there's nothing wrong with playing it safe for the long term

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottninpo
    the reason i like test only first cycles is just like LMR said, i would want to know what sides i get from test first, like if you ran deca and test and started seeing signs of gyno, which would you go with, nolva or bromo? well, you don't know because you don't know if it's the test or the deca, there's nothing wrong with playing it safe for the long term
    I hear ya bro...the fina has me playing devils advocate today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I hear ya bro...the fina has me playing devils advocate today
    oh, i thought you were just trying to kiss some MOD ass

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    I gained and retained 15lbs of muscle on a test e only cycle, go with 500mg/wk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottninpo
    oh, i thought you were just trying to kiss some MOD ass
    ROFLMAOOOOOOOOO

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    Ah shudup! You fina head.
    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I hear ya bro...the fina has me playing devils advocate today

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    So the overall consensus is to just stick with test enanthate than? What do you guys think about a jumpstart to my cycle?

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    You shouldn't need a jumpstart if this is your first cycle Bro - give your body time to adjust - lots of changes will be taking place - just stick with the Test E at either dose ( 400mg is just fine though ) and you will do just fine

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