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    I will never have an overseas source again!

    My latest of two siezed packages still has not left customs and probably won't. I have 4 sent to me; the first two showed up fine and the second two got siezed. She has this "insurance plan" where if you send an additional 30% of order cost, and with this if the package got siezed, she would resend the package to me, provided I have the siezure notice. But it has been two months since the first one got sized, and I still havent gotten the notice for that. does this sound a little sketchy to anyone else? anyone else have/had mexican sources and what are your thoughts?

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    Bro - stay domestic - your address is now flagged by Customs IMO

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    I was gonna say the same thing, your address is now flagged! You should be changing it up anyways, if your not already.

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    thank goodness you said mexico.........

    sorry for your loss... i like domestic also........ but love the powder from over seas.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifter
    Bro - stay domestic - your address is now flagged by Customs IMO
    Agreed....and learn to make your own gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Agreed....and learn to make your own gear.
    Amen to that DB - saves the cash for better things ....like porn LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifter
    Amen to that DB - saves the cash for better things ....like porn LOL
    LMAO...you know me too well

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    overseas is like gambling...domestic is the only way to go...

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    hell,i ordered overseas,but it wasnt the gear that got seized.... it was the cash that i sent registered mail....Fu**in customs
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    how the hell can they seize your cash at customs!! that soudns a little strange to me, you sure it was customs who got it and not the mailman?
    Quote Originally Posted by jbol
    hell,i ordered overseas,but it wasnt the gear that got seized.... it was the cash that i sent registered mail....Fu**in customs

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicstick2003
    how the hell can they seize your cash at customs!! that soudns a little strange to me, you sure it was customs who got it and not the mailman?
    couldve been the mailman,but i think customs opened it and saw cash and took it...i filled out form 542 to do a search on it,so i will know soon..i called the post and they said it was probably stuck in customs.

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    Sounds to me like you need to quit ordering from "HOT" countries...

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    It amazes me how you guys have the balls to have your gear ordered through mail. I know a lot of people on this forum do it, but I seriously do not think I have the balls to even think about it.

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    Bro - stay domestic - your address is now flagged by Customs IMO
    nonsense that bro, imagine a customs sorting office with 1000s of packs coming through, you think they pick up every single 1 and check the address against a list of people who have had stuff snagged? or against a list of addresses?? how many people exactly do they employ?? not that fuking many for sure.

    Hot countries like mex, thailand, asia, china, russia, turkey, peru anywhere like that its insane to order into the usa, you might as well put your money on a 5:1 at the races.

    Some countries though into the usa dont have teh same problems at all, so its not all like that, so much speculation goes on here its unreal, people should talk from facts not what they hear, we are all in the same game so lets help each other out by not talking sh1t about what we dont know

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    Gotta do what you gotta do sometimes...it sucks that your gear was siezed. Sometimes a siezue letter can take months..or if at all...maybe you were taken..who knows for sure? Making your own is the best way to go these days!

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    I have had a package seized by customs coming out of Brazil! The first one of dozens. The package came and was attempted 3x and then sent back. (roomate never told me they attempted delivery, he was lying to me and got scared). Well it was sent back here overnite again and attempted 2 more times and was sent back again. (roomate again told me nothing ever was attempted.) They finally seized the package. My source did call on it and they told him to come there and pick it up. We just chocked it up as a loss. If your waiting for a letter, dont bet on it. I never got one. It sucks but what are you gonna do. Im just greatful my source sent me half my money back. Needless to say, were done for awhile!

    My other friend who was sending my source the money was busted recently also for sending money through the mail. I told him how to do it right so they wont know, but he didnt listen and got sloppy. Sending money between 2 pieces of cardboard or a security envelope doesnt cover up the money. It still shows up if the x-ray it. They have him on camera mailing it and pictures of the package, money, etc. My friend is also S.W.A.T. Could have lost his job, but he stuck to his story, and he hasnt heard from them since. Customs agents actually came to his home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XWhiteDenali
    I have had a package seized by customs coming out of Brazil! The first one of dozens. The package came and was attempted 3x and then sent back. (roomate never told me they attempted delivery, he was lying to me and got scared). Well it was sent back here overnite again and attempted 2 more times and was sent back again. (roomate again told me nothing ever was attempted.) They finally seized the package. My source did call on it and they told him to come there and pick it up. We just chocked it up as a loss. If your waiting for a letter, dont bet on it. I never got one. It sucks but what are you gonna do. Im just greatful my source sent me half my money back. Needless to say, were done for awhile!

    My other friend who was sending my source the money was busted recently also for sending money through the mail. I told him how to do it right so they wont know, but he didnt listen and got sloppy. Sending money between 2 pieces of cardboard or a security envelope doesnt cover up the money. It still shows up if the x-ray it. They have him on camera mailing it and pictures of the package, money, etc. My friend is also S.W.A.T. Could have lost his job, but he stuck to his story, and he hasnt heard from them since. Customs agents actually came to his home.

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    the last part about the cash is scarey to me....since mine is missing,but sending cash is not illegal..... so what can they do?
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    sending money through the mail or any other source like fedex, ups, etc. is illegal. I dont know who told you that it is ok. I used to work for ups, thats how I know. We actually caught 2 envelopes trying to come through one with about 50,000 and the other with about 20,000.
    If your gonna send cash you have to be creative, and use only 100s. I have sent money through differernt carriers, and never had one seized. I know how to beat the system. (knock on wood).

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    what do they charge you with for sending cash through the mail?i have never heard that it was illegal to do so

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    i just sent one and it cost me 17 dollars. Depends on the weight and where its going also. Just stay away from usmail, they are very good at catching money going through. And just use 100s!

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    there are a lot of assumtions on this thread. first i have never heard of sending cash out in the mail to be illegal- i just did it last week! and i know it got through ok..
    also everyone keeps preaching this tagged addy crap- well, i think TOJ hit it on the head. how in the hell is customs going to flag all the addresses that have siezed packs- then get other packs that are sent to that address? you people subscribe to conspiracy theory or something.. people getting 3-4 amps of test or a few pills arent going to get a controlled delivery- its just not logistically feasible- and as far as packs getting siezed again it might depend on "hot" countrys; ie. thai, china, etc.. but theres always the risk that it will get siezed- we've got some huge ass agents protecting our boarders..ha ha....
    just wanted to throw in another 2 cents...

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    on a side note- it really doesnt matter if your gear gets siezed if you have good source that you admire, cherish, love, etc...
    they will always resend for cost or even less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XWhiteDenali
    i just sent one and it cost me 17 dollars. Depends on the weight and where its going also. Just stay away from usmail, they are very good at catching money going through. And just use 100s!

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    i always send cash and use usps.. cant count how many times. so i guess their not as good as you may think..

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    I love logical people, you put the rest of us at ease! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by zx7racing
    there are a lot of assumtions on this thread. first i have never heard of sending cash out in the mail to be illegal- i just did it last week! and i know it got through ok..
    also everyone keeps preaching this tagged addy crap- well, i think TOJ hit it on the head. how in the hell is customs going to flag all the addresses that have siezed packs- then get other packs that are sent to that address? you people subscribe to conspiracy theory or something.. people getting 3-4 amps of test or a few pills arent going to get a controlled delivery- its just not logistically feasible- and as far as packs getting siezed again it might depend on "hot" countrys; ie. thai, china, etc.. but theres always the risk that it will get siezed- we've got some huge ass agents protecting our boarders..ha ha....
    just wanted to throw in another 2 cents...

    It is illegal, my friend was busted for sending 1000 dollars through to brazil! Im not saying you cant get it through, because it can be done. When they questioned him they showed him pics of him writing the address label, pics of the package, and of the money inside. Questioned him for about 4 hours. You cant tell me they are not looking, because they are. Im not sure if they were just doing it random or what.
    I used to work for ups, and they have been known for opening up international packages to make sure what the packing slip says is whats inside. They dont open all, I say maybe 25% at least at my center. The packages that contained large sums of money were handed over to loss prevention and handled appropiately from there. What happend to the individuals, I have no idea. But bottom line, you can send large amounts of cash through delivery services, just call and ask!

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    So first question when they catch you and question you for 4 hrs with you on tape what the hell do you say? Second what is a good way to hide the cash. I usually just send it in a double evelope and then inside a padded usps shipping envelope.

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    They pretty much asked him everything from what he told me. He wouldnt tell me specifically, but they knew he was sending cash before, asked him why, why to brazil, etc.

    As for sending cash or whatever else, Please Dont Ask Me Or PM Me on how to do it. I wont answer them! Ill say this, just be creative!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Original Jason
    nonsense that bro, imagine a customs sorting office with 1000s of packs coming through, you think they pick up every single 1 and check the address against a list of people who have had stuff snagged? or against a list of addresses?? how many people exactly do they employ?? not that fuking many for sure.

    Hot countries like mex, thailand, asia, china, russia, turkey, peru anywhere like that its insane to order into the usa, you might as well put your money on a 5:1 at the races.

    Some countries though into the usa dont have teh same problems at all, so its not all like that, so much speculation goes on here its unreal, people should talk from facts not what they hear, we are all in the same game so lets help each other out by not talking sh1t about what we dont know

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    Thank You OJ!...Finally, somebody talking some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Original Jason
    nonsense that bro, imagine a customs sorting office with 1000s of packs coming through, you think they pick up every single 1 and check the address against a list of people who have had stuff snagged? or against a list of addresses?? how many people exactly do they employ?? not that fuking many for sure.

    Hot countries like mex, thailand, asia, china, russia, turkey, peru anywhere like that its insane to order into the usa, you might as well put your money on a 5:1 at the races.

    Some countries though into the usa dont have teh same problems at all, so its not all like that, so much speculation goes on here its unreal, people should talk from facts not what they hear, we are all in the same game so lets help each other out by not talking sh1t about what we dont know

    peace
    Actually, the tagged addresses is not BS. They run the packages on conveyer and the addys are scanned by machine, not by individual workers. They check both the senders address as well as the receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    Actually, the tagged addresses is not BS. They run the packages on conveyer and the addys are scanned by machine, not by individual workers. They check both the senders address as well as the receivers.
    That's bull****...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironfist
    That's bull****...

    I want this answer to be true, I like this one the best. This makes me feel better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    Actually, the tagged addresses is not BS. They run the packages on conveyer and the addys are scanned by machine, not by individual workers. They check both the senders address as well as the receivers.
    i dont think that there is a machine sophisticated enough to read everyones handwriting

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    actually there is.............

    but it cost alot... and the volume that is moved everyday by the post office is incredable...

    and UPS.. i was in international inspector.. going to canada....

    we opened ever 10th box...

    so now ya know.........




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    ok first off I'm not asking how to stuff money. I was curious because there is only so much you can do before it looks oversized. Now they questioned your friend that I know but I was really wondering what the heck did he say. How do you lie your way out of something like that. I was donating to feed the children. .

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    Spy has spoken...

    And I for one believe it... Makes sense for Customs to use
    them in international airports with a high volume of packs...

    Have reasons to make me believe this that I will not discuse
    on a open board ever... But I'm sure they have more then
    any of us want to beleive or give them credit for... **** X-rays
    are bad enuf...

    Anyway, Spy get off your ass and design another machine

    that beats that machine and all will be good in the world again...

    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    actually there is.............

    but it cost alot... and the volume that is moved everyday by the post office is incredable...

    and UPS.. i was in international inspector.. going to canada....

    we opened ever 10th box...

    so now ya know.........


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    Quote Originally Posted by ironfist
    That's bull****...
    Sorry bro, it's not. It's old technology. The post office uses it to read zip codes. That is all done by scanners reading handwritting.

    I've seen them, they have them in every customs clearinghouse for packages destined for US Mail delivery and others. Not every piece makes it through, but a good chunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbol
    i dont think that there is a machine sophisticated enough to read everyones handwriting
    Exactly how do you think they process the millions of pieces of U.S.Mail daily?
    They have a machine that reads the writing, and if it can't be read by the machine, then it's read by a person. Sending cash through USPS is illegal? I know FedEx and UPS don't allow it. It says so on their envelopes/boxes. "Do not send cash, cash equivalent(s), or liquids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick Arrado
    Exactly how do you think they process the millions of pieces of U.S.Mail daily?
    They have a machine that reads the writing, and if it can't be read by the machine, then it's read by a person. Sending cash through USPS is illegal? I know FedEx and UPS don't allow it. It says so on their envelopes/boxes. "Do not send cash, cash equivalent(s), or liquids.
    i guess modern technology has come further than i thought

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    From what my friend told me, he told the customs agents he was sending money to his cousin to help him out. He was having some hard times and asked my friend to help. Thats the story he stuck with and never changed it. Which is how its suppose to be done. 1000 US Dollars in Brazil is like having 10000! (you get the idea) US money is very strong over there, or anywhere in South America. I talked to my S.W.A.T. friend today, and he said there is no charge as of right now, and there probably wont be. I guess he is getting a break. If something does happen, I will post it back here.

    Thanks to Spy for backing my story with the international packages. They do check. He said every 10th package. UPS at my center did about 25% of them. Mostly the boxes, never really envelopes because they were considered documents.

    And as for scanning, UPS scans EVERYTHING! Next time you send one UPS, go online at their website, and see how many times its scanned. Its crazy..from the time they pick it up, till it leaves the center, to the airport, from the airport, to the delivery center, to destination, etc.

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    Its amazing to me that some in here are "Experts" on the kinds of machines customs and post offices have. I have to agree with Jason. And its not worth the Gov'ts time and effort to "Tag" adresses for trying to import some gear. (of course large volume is a different story)

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