clomid or hcg??

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 09:45 AM

what would u guys recomend?

**einstein1905** · 03-10-2004, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tjelle

what would u guys recomend?

They don't accomplish the same things. You can use HCG , but you'll still need clomid after that

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 09:51 AM

ok, could u explain little more? need help... thx. and whats the differese about the things they do?

**NoLimits** · 03-10-2004, 09:52 AM

Really depends on what you are running and for how long on whether or not you will need HCG ! But like einstein1905 said, you will still need to run clomid even if you decide to use the HCG.

**einstein1905** · 03-10-2004, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Tjelle

ok, could u explain little more? need help... thx

I should just say to do a search, but.....

HCG mimics LH....it'll stimulate the boys, but it won't restore HPTA. It will actually inhibit HPTA.....further shut you down. Clomid acts up at the top of the chain of signaling and DOES restore HPTA. HCG is just a bandaid, but it serves its purposes in longer cycles to prevent testicular atrophy. You still need clomid for pct though.

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 09:57 AM

i'm running susta 250 every 3d day and gonna do it for 10 weeks.. i am sorry if i havent not done enuff searching on this but i really need help with this on.. on when to use the hcg and the clomid what dosages and so on... i dont know much about this so all help is greatly appriciated...

**einstein1905** · 03-10-2004, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Tjelle

i'm running susta 250 every 3d day and gonna do it for 10 weeks.. i am sorry if i havent not done enuff searching on this but i really need help with this on.. on when to use the hcg and the clomid what dosages and so on... i dont know much about this so all help is greatly appriciated...

do a search for "pct". You'll find everything you need. You shouldn't need HCG with a cycle of only 10 weeks.

**NoLimits** · 03-10-2004, 10:01 AM

Ten weeks of sust... I don't think you will need to use HCG ... save it or your money for a later cycle!

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 10:03 AM

sorry am a noob and from norway so i dont understad all the words
correct me if im wrong
HPTA = natural test prod.?
LH = ??
sorry for beeing a pain=)

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

do a search for "pct". You'll find everything you need. You shouldn't need HCG with a cycle of only 10 weeks.

ok thx for ur help.. gonne do the search now...

**einstein1905** · 03-10-2004, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Tjelle

sorry am a noob and from norway so i dont understad all the words
correct me if im wrong
HPTA = natural test prod.?
LH = ??
sorry for beeing a pain=)

Sorry
LH= lutenizing hormone......this indirectly stimulates test production
HPTA= hypothalamus-Pituitary_Testes (gonadal)-Axis
HPTA is just the sequence of signaling that needs to occur "from the top down" to have natural testosterone production and regulation.
Using HCG stimulates some test production, but this gives the body the impression that testosterone production is adequate, so it continues to shut down its own test production at the level of the hypothalamus.
The basic point is that HCG is just a temporary fix, whereas clomid will restore the normal production and regulation of test.

**Tjelle** · 03-10-2004, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

Sorry
LH= lutenizing hormone......this indirectly stimulates test production
HPTA= hypothalamus-Pituitary_Testes (gonadal)-Axis
HPTA is just the sequence of signaling that needs to occur "from the top down" to have natural testosterone production and regulation.
Using HCG stimulates some test production, but this gives the body the impression that testosterone production is adequate, so it continues to shut down its own test production at the level of the hypothalamus.
The basic point is that HCG is just a temporary fix, whereas clomid will restore the normal production and regulation of test.

thanx for ur help dude... need that info=)