need expert advice. help me out bros

**efunk33** · 03-11-2004, 08:34 PM

i was wondering what is the best workout/supplement program available that has everything mapped out for you. for on cycle or off cycle routines. please help i am so over this whole thing. i need a full program i can follow to gain mass. i am 20 6'1 180lbs. is swolecats the best period or does anyone know of anything else that is a full program thats i would like to include a diet too.

**einstein1905** · 03-11-2004, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by efunk33

i was wondering what is the best workout/supplement program available that has everything mapped out for you. for on cycle or off cycle routines. please help i am so over this whole thing. i need a full program i can follow to gain mass. i am 20 6'1 180lbs. is swolecats the best period or does anyone know of anything else that is a full program thats i would like to include a diet too.

Cybergenics

Seriously, there isn't a complete "program" you can adopt and assume it'll work best for you. You can take ideas from different people, but your own experience will be most important.

**efunk33** · 03-11-2004, 08:44 PM

what if i had swolecat make me a personal one for $200. is it worth it or should i just learn it all myself. he knows so much he could make me the perfect one. should i do it or pass?????????