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Thread: PCT - for 20wk cycle ???
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03-12-2004, 12:23 PM #1
PCT - for 20wk cycle ???
How should I run PCT for this cycle. It is a pretty long cycle of test ( 19wks )
Should I do the normal 300/100/50 for 21 days or do I need to run it differently...
Here is the cycle:
wk 1-4 35mg Dbol ed
wk 1-16 500mg EQ
wk 1-16 600mg Cyp.
wk 16-19 75mg prop ed
Appreciate the help..
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03-12-2004, 12:45 PM #2
20 weeks is a fairly advanced length of cycle time, however you will love what happens from week 10-16 with the EQ.
i would get ahold of some HCG as that will be your best friend during a duration like this. your clomid administration will be much more effective if the HCG has been used at 500iu's EOD during week 8 and week 16.
that would be a minimalistic way to run it, but i think you will be much happier than the clomid alone.
what kind of an anti are you running for 19 weeks? that makes a difference, too, if it is liquidex or femara as opposed to only nolvadex .
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03-12-2004, 01:47 PM #3
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Originally Posted by daem
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03-12-2004, 01:49 PM #4
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Originally Posted by Russ616
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03-12-2004, 01:58 PM #5
With a cycle of that length, I'd get ahold of some HCG and use it roughly at the times Daem said...maybe a couple weeks later than he recommended (just preference). Nolva 10mg/day and Ldex 0.25mg/day throughout. Bump nolva up to 20mg/day during pct with normal clomid...maybe extend clomid an extra week (probably not necessary).
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03-12-2004, 02:11 PM #6Originally Posted by einstein1905
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03-12-2004, 02:13 PM #7Originally Posted by Russ616
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03-12-2004, 02:28 PM #8Originally Posted by einstein1905
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03-12-2004, 02:35 PM #9Originally Posted by Russ616
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03-12-2004, 02:39 PM #10Originally Posted by einstein1905
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03-12-2004, 02:40 PM #11
run nolva through out for sure, you could add dex to keep the bloat away....run a standard nolva/clomid pct for 21 days...
hcg might be needed, but if your still young IMO you can recover alot easier...i decided against it for my 20 weeker...but thats JMO
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03-12-2004, 02:46 PM #12
Bro no flame intended but to run a 20 wk cycle and not know how to run the proper PCT is crazy.
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03-12-2004, 02:48 PM #13Originally Posted by ColdStone
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03-12-2004, 02:52 PM #14
In my opinion
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03-12-2004, 03:08 PM #15Associate Member
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i would not recommend a standard 3 week pct following a 20 week cycle.
i would recommend you stay on pct for 8 weeks or longer if you really want to be safe.
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03-12-2004, 03:13 PM #16Originally Posted by abc 1
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03-12-2004, 03:13 PM #17Originally Posted by abc 1
You can use anything to chase the liquid anti e's. Mixing it allows for the potential to lose some. Your call though.
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03-12-2004, 03:43 PM #18Associate Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
doesn't matter if he's using 500mg or 1000mg of test at the 20 week mark, fact is his body has stopped producing natural test for over 4 months. mild compounds means nothing at that point.
i have to say this, but it's not a flame. if using clomid isn't exactly "healthy", please tell me the positive benefits of using anti-e's that completely stop the production and aromitization of estrogen while wreaking havoc on lipid profiles for the entire 20 week cycle? seriously, clomid's not healthy being run for 8 weeks but cycling various aas for 20 weeks is?
also, he's never done a 20 week cycle, no one knows if he will be fine. isn't it much safer to run pct a few weeks longer? what's so unhealthy about that? what's so bad about recommending a longer pct run, helps with the transition to natural training, sure did with me and i'll never stop recommending it. just because everyone says 3 or 4 weeks is fine doesn't mean a thing to me. i know what has/hasn't worked for me and i'll recommend my way to anyone interested in hearing it. doesn't mean it's right or wrong just a different way of doing things. i know a few people who have tried my method and have been much happier with the end result.
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03-12-2004, 03:51 PM #19Originally Posted by abc 1
Last edited by einstein1905; 03-12-2004 at 07:07 PM.
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03-12-2004, 06:06 PM #20Associate Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
nolva: 30mg/day
clomid: 50mg/day
tribulus: 2g/day
maca: 3g/day
avena: 2g/day
i use low dose clomid because it doesn't affect my mood and i only use the clomid for 40 days, nolva is run all the way through (8 weeks). the supps stop at the end of week 7.
i'm stil not sure why this proposed pct is too long. i would tend to think that the typical clomid use (300, 100, 50) would cause more visual disturbances due to the fact that the drug was not made to be administered in such high dosages.
like i said, i don't think either is "wrong" but i'd rather be safe by allowing the hpta to fully recover with a longer pct than take the chance of doing too little and having the hpta crash after a shorter pct. this is what i believe happened to me and it was devistating.
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