first cycle

[chazz]

deca 200 to 400 mg ew dbol 25 to 40mg a day 6 to 8 weeks

[damiongage]

No Good

Needs test, no deca for a first cycle, d-bol is ran to long. Need to do some research and start over from scratch.

[palequail]

Run test with it..first cycle drop the dbol .....maybe just test and deca ...

[chazz]

No Good

Needs test, no deca for a first cycle, d-bol is ran to long. Need to do some research and start over from scratch.

ive been doing reserch for the last 4 months this is a good first cycle test an debol have almost the same afect but one is worse on your insides then the other an you keep more on the deca then tes or dbol

[razor67]

i would stick to just running test for first cycle.. test/dbol at the most..

peace

[1badcamaro]

not to sound like an ass here but try taking deca with no test and see what happens to your sex drive, if you've done your research you would have heard of deca dick that happens to a lot of guys........add test

[scottninpo]

if you've been doing your research in the steroid profiles on the main page, you've been researching in the wrong place, they are outdated and in many places, misleading, from what i understand, they are going to be updated soon

[BUYLONGTERM]

ive been doing reserch for the last 4 months this is a good first cycle test an debol have almost the same afect but one is worse on your insides then the other an you keep more on the deca then tes or dbol

No flame bro, but if you did research for the last 4 months, you'd definitely know NOT to run DECA alone!!! It will shut you down hard! CONTINUE to do research!


BLT

[chazz]

did any one read every thing dboll an deca not just deca this is only a first cycle i will be taking tes eth for 2nd cycle

[razor67]

the dbol is no substitute for test bro........

[chazz]

im 34 years old i did seroids back in the 80s i am only using it as a jump start i know that tes is what every one says take tes take tes for me my self is a dbol deca to get stated its only the first cycle an you say that dbol an tes is not the same you well lose just as much gain on either one when you come off it if you say that its an old thread on taking deca an dbol it must of changed in 20years that all almost all steroids have been around sence then so deca isnt whatit was back then its changed no its the same all the same ive been here reading every ones threads an they are allways the same over an over again

[chazz]

just in a bad mood today

[scottninpo]

okay, i guess if you were doing steroids since before you were 20 you know what you're doing then, good luck

[razor67]

uhhh.ok.. well, times.. they have changed, running deca without test is not a good idea for many reasons.. we have learned alot about aas use since the 80's... if you dont want to run test...fine, dont. wont make any difference to me..were just trying give you the best advise..

[chazz]

my next cycle well be tes sus deca any were from 200 to 500

[fitnessNY]

be safe and run test with your cycle, you will benefit a lot more with it.