Does the use of Nolva effect gains

Hey bros,
im just full of question today,
I have been taking 20mg nolva and bumped up to 40mg ed, b/c I was starting to get some gyno problems, I was just wondering if the use of nolva would effect gains from your cycle??

Thanks

HM

It's a myth. No worries bro.

And even if it did effect your gains a bit, if you have gyno problems that is way more important to get under control.

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Originally Posted by hybrid

And even if it did effect your gains a bit, if you have gyno problems that is way more important to get under control.

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Agreed.............. I would do ANYTHING not to get gyno....... if your are still seeing signs of gyno bump the nolvs to 80mg ED until they go away then 20mg through the cycle and PCT..........

As MBH said it will not hinder your gains 1 bit.

It's a old maid's tale.

great
thanks bros

Nolva in maintenance doses for moderate amounts of time does not effect gains. Higher doses for long durations have been seen to lower igf, but if gyno sypmtoms are apparent you don't have much choice.

This is why I alter PCT protocol for extremely long cycles; as a more extensive plan with variations in doses is needed to avoid the side effects from SERMs such as occulotoxicity(seen primarily, but not restricted to clomid) igf decreases with tamox, and decreases in sensitivity to GnRH from clomid due to it's selective nature to the suprapituitary.

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Originally Posted by Pheedno

Nolva in maintenance doses for moderate amounts of time does not effect gains. Higher doses for long durations have been seen to lower igf, but if gyno sypmtoms are apparent you don't have much choice.

This is why I alter PCT protocol for extremely long cycles; as a more extensive pan with variatins in doses is needed to avoid the side effects from SERMs such as occulotoxicity(seen primarily, but no restricted to clomid) igf decreases with tamox, and decreases in sensitivity to GnRH from clomid due to it's selectivenature to the suprapituitary.

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In English please. :wg:

Top notch again bro.

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Originally Posted by Pheedno

Nolva in maintenance doses for moderate amounts of time does not effect gains. Higher doses for long durations have been seen to lower igf, but if gyno sypmtoms are apparent you don't have much choice.

This is why I alter PCT protocol for extremely long cycles; as a more extensive pan with variatins in doses is needed to avoid the side effects from SERMs such as occulotoxicity(seen primarily, but no restricted to clomid) igf decreases with tamox, and decreases in sensitivity to GnRH from clomid due to it's selectivenature to the suprapituitary.

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Thanks Pheedno.

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Originally Posted by Pheedno

Nolva in maintenance doses for moderate amounts of time does not effect gains. Higher doses for long durations have been seen to lower igf, but if gyno sypmtoms are apparent you don't have much choice.

This is why I alter PCT protocol for extremely long cycles; as a more extensive pan with variatins in doses is needed to avoid the side effects from SERMs such as occulotoxicity(seen primarily, but no restricted to clomid) igf decreases with tamox, and decreases in sensitivity to GnRH from clomid due to it's selectivenature to the suprapituitary.

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:?: I just spent 4 hours looking this up.......it's all true.....lol
I knew I should of taken Advanced Brainacian Dialects when I had the chance! :lol:
TSW