Thread: Truth About Diminshing Gains!
03-18-2004, 10:42 AM #1Member
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Truth About Diminshing Gains!
I know that ALL gains diminish over time. But do natural gains and gains
made on 1 cycle of steroids (after proper pct) dimish at the same rate
when not working out?
For example, a person does one cycle of steroids and after PCT retains 15lbs
of muscle. Now, they continue training for another year and after that year,
are unable to workout for a 6 month period for whatever reason. Would they
lose muscle at the same rate as if they were natural during this six months,
keeping in mind a year has passed since the cycle. Does the body begin to treat the muscle gained after PCT as natural?
I have gone 6 months without training and have only lost 2-3 lbs of muscle.
Would I lose at the same rate during a six month break a year after cycling?
I'm not asking this question because I want to take a 6 month break, I just
want to know whether the body treats muscle gained on steroids after PCT the same as it would treat naturally gained muscle in regards to diminshing rates?
Please keep in mind I am only talking about 1 or 2 cycles.
03-18-2004, 10:45 AM #2
It's not a matter of "rate" of diminshing gains as it is more of the catabolic fators you experience after a cycle, and how well you combat them. You must do everything you can to battle the catabolism. Read up on how to do so.
Also, the muscle is natural whether you used AAS or not. The body does not recognize it as "fake." It's just that the body cannot handle the upset in your bodies homeostasis. Once you're back to balance, the body holds it. Savvy?
03-18-2004, 10:54 AM #3
but also there is that time when you have reached beyond your natural potential and your body wont be able to hold onto any gains made above your natural potential.
03-18-2004, 11:07 AM #4Originally Posted by backer123
03-18-2004, 11:31 AM #5
after you start working out again you'll gain it back alot quicker though. when I put on 15 pds of muscle (naturally) during one summer to bulk up for football, I lost it all (plus 10 pds) after I broke my leg midway through the season. But when I started working out again 7 or 8 months later it all came back in about 4 or 5 months. I don't know if this applies to gains from a cycle too but I'm pretty sure muscle is muscle.
03-18-2004, 11:53 AM #6
as long as you haven't reached your "natural limit" your body has memory, as long as it's not inefficient for your body to hold that muscle you will gain it back with more ease than the first time.
03-18-2004, 11:59 AM #7
doc, what's up with the savvy? hehe, like it bro
03-18-2004, 01:44 PM #8Member
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Say a guy weighs 200lbs and stops working out for a year. In that year, he loses 10 lbs of muscle.
Now, say a guy has done two cycles and gains 35lbs of muscle from those two cycles.
He has done his PCT and done everything to battle the catabolic effect on his body after the cycle and has managed to retain 20lbs of muscle. Now a year has passed after his last cycle, he weighs 200lbs and he also stops training for a year. Does he lose 10lbs of muscle over the course of the year or more because his muscles were gained using steroids .
03-18-2004, 03:36 PM #9
too many factors....Originally Posted by Taurus
03-18-2004, 04:27 PM #10
You like that Assym?
03-18-2004, 04:39 PM #11Originally Posted by Taurus
03-18-2004, 05:34 PM #12
Although I dont know the answer to you question.. i Can give you my personal experience.
Last year I got up to 190
I was juicin and eating everything in sight.. after PCT and losing the water I ended up at 182 12% bf I kept it for 3 months then
I stopped working out for 3 months ..I got down to 165..within five months I hve gotten back up to 185lbs at 9%bf
I trian hard and eat clean..
Its hard to put on weight but once my muscles get there they have a memory and getting it back is easier.. Now I want to get to 195,,,, its tough.. putting on muscle past your genetic potential is difficult but once there ..its eassy to keep and or regain
03-19-2004, 01:57 AM #13Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by DocHoliday
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03-19-2004, 04:22 AM #14Originally Posted by DocHoliday
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