tren/prop ??'s

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:14 AM

alright.... i have a few questions... im starting my tren /prop cycle in about 2 weeks. I have 2 bottles qv tren75, 2 bottles qv prop, and 50 tabs nolvi......

1) is mixing these two together in the same syringe aright to do ed or eod? also should i start out lower than 75(tren) and lower than 50(prop) ed and work my way up to that and than ween back down towards the end of my cycle.... when should i start taking the nolvi..... 3 days after last injection?

2) since its ed or eod i know i have to shoot in a few places... what places do you guys prefer for this?

3) what size syringes should i buy?

4) should i pick up some HCG for my HPTA ??

5) how often should i do cardio while on this cycle...

thanks alot

**Mart651** · 03-19-2004, 10:18 AM

How much are you planning on shooting every time? it does not look like you have enough for a cycle.

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by mart651

How much are you planning on shooting every time? it does not look like you have enough for a cycle.

100mg prop eod and 75 tren eod or ed???

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 10:25 AM

wow that’s a lot of questions that can be answered with a little reading.
1- ED is preferred to get the best blood levels. Do 100mg of prop and 75 mg of tren . Don’t pyramid your dosages, its really bad it screws up your levels too much.

2- Butt, quads, chest, tris and delts

3- 25g 1 inch to shoot, and draw with a 20 or 21 to make it easier.

4- If you can get some do it, run it 500 ius E4D. but stop with your last prop shot.

5- That is contingent upon your goals.

Also you need more gear as this will only last 3 weeks....

*edit* Use prop for 10 weeks and tren for 8. It will make recovery better

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

wow that’s a lot of questions that can be answered with a little reading.
1- ED is preferred to get the best blood levels. Do 100mg of prop and 75 mg of tren . Don’t pyramid your dosages, its really bad it screws up your levels too much.

2- Butt, quads, chest, tris and delts

3- 25g 1 inch to shoot, and draw with a 20 or 21 to make it easier.

4- If you can get some do it, run it 500 ius E4D. but stop with your last prop shot.

5- That is contingent upon your goals.

Also you need more gear as this will only last 3 weeks....

thanks man...... i do all sorts of reading but Im not as knowledgeble as you guys who are more experienced thats why i ask you guys for advice....

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by The KI DUB

thanks man...... i do all sorts of reading but Im not as knowledgeble as you guys who are more experienced thats why i ask you guys for advice....

if thats only lasting 3 weeks...... i also have 2 10ml test eth bottles..... could i throw that in the mix of things???

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by The KI DUB

thanks man...... i do all sorts of reading but Im not as knowledgeble as you guys who are more experienced thats why i ask you guys for advice....

Thats cool bro, Id search for "tren /fina" "tren/prop" and Im sure you will find a lot of opinions on it. It seems to be a very popular stack! Good luck, ohh and I hope this isnt your first cycle....?

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by The KI DUB

if thats only lasting 3 weeks...... i also have 2 10ml test eth bottles..... could i throw that in the mix of things???

You could to this-
Weeks 1-3 prop 100mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500 a week, split into 2 injections.
Weeks 1-8 75mg of tren .
Weeks 1-12 10mg of nolva and .25cc of L-dex. ED

Then PCT

**Mart651** · 03-19-2004, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by The KI DUB

if thats only lasting 3 weeks...... i also have 2 10ml test eth bottles..... could i throw that in the mix of things???

If you are going to do a tren \prop cycle buy more of both and do as sparkle said.
If you can't get anymore you need to rethink the cycle all together.

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 10:41 AM

It still looks like you need more tren and test bro

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:41 AM

no this is my second cycle.... a few told me it was cool to do and a few said it wasnt.... first cycle i ran 500 test e/ week and dbols for four weeks. and nolvi for pct..... in your opinion would it be safer for me to just run the test e cycle again for my second and save the tren /prop for a 3rd cycle or just do it..... i read about how tren can like "shut you down" or something... is that refering to doing it as a first or second cycle??

**Jackman** · 03-19-2004, 10:42 AM

yea you need more stuff bro.

**Jackman** · 03-19-2004, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by The KI DUB

no this is my second cycle.... a few told me it was cool to do and a few said it wasnt.... first cycle i ran 500 test e/ week and dbols for four weeks. and nolvi for pct..... in your opinion would it be safer for me to just run the test e cycle again for my second and save the tren/prop for a 3rd cycle or just do it..... i read about how tren can like "shut you down" or something... is that refering to doing it as a first or second cycle??

Are you saying your did the Test E for 4 weeks also? it takes 4-5 to realy even kick in...

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:44 AM

no this is my second cycle...... i few people told me it was cool to do for my second cycle and a few told me to wait?? first cycle i ran test e 500/wk and dbol for four weeks along with nolvi for pct...... in your honest opinion would it be safer to just run the test e @ 500/wk again for my second cycle and save the tren /prop for a 3rd cycle.?? i read about tren "shutting down yhour system" or something.. is that referring to running it as a first or second cycle???

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Jackman

Are you saying your did the Test E for 4 weeks also? it takes 4-5 to realy even kick in...

no last cycle (1st cycle) i had 2 10ml bottlkes of eth so that lasted me 10 weeks

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 10:47 AM

Wow test E takes four weeks to work. Id run test E and prop. And save the tren , unless your are really set on takin it. Everything shuts you down, some harder than ohther tren is one of them. If you can get HCG , run it E4D for the whole duration of the cylce, up to PCT.

**Jackman** · 03-19-2004, 10:49 AM

bro trust me you will love tren ! i would do it and i did it for my first cycle and now on my second even though i didnt start the tren yet. next week hehe. you can see in my sig what im doing.

**The KI DUB** · 03-19-2004, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jackman

bro trust me you will love tren! i would do it and i did it for my first cycle and now on my second even though i didnt start the tren yet. next week hehe. you can see in my sig what im doing.

thanks alot....... so with what i have - 2 bottles of tren75, 2 bottles of prop, and 2 bottles of eth, 50 tabs of nolvi...... how should i arrange this or should i not take the eth??

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-19-2004, 11:03 AM

I showed you how to arange it. You need more tren and on more bottle of test E

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 03-19-2004, 11:17 AM

All things you take are goign to shut you down, not just tren . Test, dbol , etc all will shut you down.

I would run this for a second cycle.

1-10 400-500mg Test
1-2 100mg Prop EOD, 11-12 100mg EOD
7-12 50mg Tren ED

Youll need at least 1 more bottle of tren.

Make sure you have your ancillaries for on cycle (nolva, ari, etc) and some clomid for PCT.

Id skip the HCG . This isnt a long or very heavy cycle.

**gixxer** · 03-19-2004, 11:50 AM

I have been dieing to do tren but the sexual side effect is what stops me.I hear people doing a gram of test like i do have the problem.Is there any way around it?